-A possible unfulfilled prophesy, but also a sign for Garabandal detractors
The passing of Joseph Lomangino on the anniversary of the first apparition and also the last public message of Garabandal
6/18/2014- Lindenhurst, New York.
June 18, 2014 has marked the passing of Joseph "Joey" Lomangino, precisely 53 years ago to the day of the first alleged heavenly apparition (June 18, 1961) to four young girls in Garabandal, Spain. After the first initial appearance of St Michael the Archangel on this date, the Blessed Virgin Mary would allegedly appear on numerous occasions to the children until the final public message, once again on June 18, 1965. And for this reason, June 18th is the primary feast day of the events of Garabandal, since it marks the date of the first apparition to the children in 1961, and also that of the last public message of the Blessed Virgin Mary on that same date in 1965. And so it is that also on this very significant same date that Joey Lomangino died of a heart attack in his home at 10:30AM, lovingly surrounded by his family.
The timing of Joey's passing is not a coincidence
Firstly it should be pointed out that those who have faith in God and in His Providence know very well that God arranges the timing of important events, and those who have eyes to see and ears to hear should very well recognize the hand of God in the timing of Joey's passing on June 18--the anniversary of the first Garabandal apparition, and also the last public message of the Blessed Virgin Mary--for June 18 is truly a key date in the Garabandal apparition.
I remember when Pope John Paul II died on the evening of April 2, 2005 which that year was precisely the evening vigil of Divine Mercy Sunday--how so many people overlooked or did not recognize the remarkable sign in the timing of his death, for it was he who fought so hard for the recognition and acceptance of the message of Bl. Faustina and Divine Mercy Sunday--for it was beginning in the 1950's that Bl. Faustina's Diary with its writings on Divine Mercy were originally condemned by the Holy Office---but thanks to Pope John Paul II this original ruling was completely overturned. Thus, the timing of such events such as the death of Pope John Paul II and Joey Lomangino are signs for those with an open mind and heart, and such signs are not meant by God to be ignored or taken lightly.
A possible unfulfilled prophecy
Within hours of Joey's passing, already in comment forum here on this website and on other blogs and websites doubters of the alleged apparitions of Garabandal were quick to point out the apparent unfulfilled prophesy concerning Joey:
Letter to Joey Lomangino from Conchita Gonzalez (one of the visionaries of Garabandal)
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March 19, 1964 - St. Joseph’s Day
"My Dear Joseph,
Just two lines to tell you the message which the Blessed Virgin gave me for you today at the pines…she told me that the voice you heard was hers and that you shall see on the very day of the Miracle. She also told me that the House of Charity you will establish in New York will bring great glory to God."
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"You shall see on the day of the Miracle." --Here we come to the prophecy of the long awaited "new eyes" that were promised by the Blessed Virgin Mary to Conchita in a vision.
Now that Joey has passed from this life, many have jumped to the conclusion that this prophesy is false and unfulfilled. And at first appearance this writer would have to agree that such is the case. But, reading carefully the prediction of what the Lady in the vision said to Conchita---that is that Joey would see on the day of the Miracle---well, one has to recognize that there are other interpretations and possibilities than the most obvious and apparent one, and I will leave it to the reader to consider other such possibilities.
Keep in mind that this writer is not making excuses for what appears to be an unfulfilled prophesy, only that there are other possibilities and interpretations contained in such a message.
The failed prophecy that wasn't--The prophesy that St Padre Pio would see the Miracle of Garabandal before his death.
When the great St. Padre Pio died on September 23, 1968, many who were familiar with the events of Garabandal were surprised because the 'Great Miracle' prophesied at Garabandal had not yet occurred, because of the well known prophecy by the Blessed Virgin to Conchita that Padre Pio would see the Great Miracle, however his death by all appearances at first SEEMINGLY negated this alleged prophesy.
When Conchita found out Padre Pio died in Sept. 1968, she (along with many others!) were surprised and dismayed. However, several weeks after his death as dusk settled at Garabandal, on October 16, 1968, a telegram from Lourdes arrived, carrying the name of a woman in Rome whom Conchita knew. The telegram urged her to depart immediately by car to receive something on behalf of Padre Pio.
"My Dear Joseph,
Just two lines to tell you the message which the Blessed Virgin gave me for you today at the pines…she told me that the voice you heard was hers and that you shall see on the very day of the Miracle. She also told me that the House of Charity you will establish in New York will bring great glory to God."
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"You shall see on the day of the Miracle." --Here we come to the prophecy of the long awaited "new eyes" that were promised by the Blessed Virgin Mary to Conchita in a vision.
Now that Joey has passed from this life, many have jumped to the conclusion that this prophesy is false and unfulfilled. And at first appearance this writer would have to agree that such is the case. But, reading carefully the prediction of what the Lady in the vision said to Conchita---that is that Joey would see on the day of the Miracle---well, one has to recognize that there are other interpretations and possibilities than the most obvious and apparent one, and I will leave it to the reader to consider other such possibilities.
Keep in mind that this writer is not making excuses for what appears to be an unfulfilled prophesy, only that there are other possibilities and interpretations contained in such a message.
The failed prophecy that wasn't--The prophesy that St Padre Pio would see the Miracle of Garabandal before his death.
When the great St. Padre Pio died on September 23, 1968, many who were familiar with the events of Garabandal were surprised because the 'Great Miracle' prophesied at Garabandal had not yet occurred, because of the well known prophecy by the Blessed Virgin to Conchita that Padre Pio would see the Great Miracle, however his death by all appearances at first SEEMINGLY negated this alleged prophesy.
Fr. Combe, a French parish priest from Chazay d'Azergues in the diocese of Lyon and a great promoter of the cause of Garabandal was in Garabandal that day. He and his collaborator B.L. Ellos took Conchita and Conchita's mother Aniceta in their car and set out that night for Lourdes. In the morning of October 17, Conchita received on behalf of Padre Pio a short written message, a large section of the veil that had covered Padre Pio's face after his death, and also one of Padre Pio's gloves. Delivering these gifts to her from Padre Pio was the Italian Capuchin, Fr. P. Bernardino Cennamo.
Conchita took advantage of this meeting to ask Fr. Cennamo:
"Why did the Virgin tell me that Padre Pio would see the Miracle?"
He replied: "Padre Pio saw it [the Miracle] before his death. He told us himself"
He replied: "Padre Pio saw it [the Miracle] before his death. He told us himself"
The lesson? Things are not always what they first appear to be, and we should not come to quick conclusions based on first appearances.
Joey Lomangino was a devout and pious man who spent his life spreading devotion to God and the Blessed Virgin Mary. Along with founding the Workers of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Center in Lindenhurst, NY, for many years Joey tirelessly traveled about to countless places giving conferences on the message of Garabandal--a message of prayer and reparation. He will be fondly and devoutly remembered by the many who met this remarkable man over the years. Whether one is favorable towards Garabandal or not, everyone should appreciate and recognize the fact that Joey was a very kind and pious man who spent his life spreading devotion to God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and his great spiritual friend, Padre Pio.
As to the authenticity of the alleged apparitions at Garabandal, it is up to the Church to make the final decision. In the meantime, the faithful are free to come to their own personal judgement after careful discernment.
As to the authenticity of the alleged apparitions at Garabandal, it is up to the Church to make the final decision. In the meantime, the faithful are free to come to their own personal judgement after careful discernment.
-Eternal rest grant unto him O' Lord, and may perpetual light shine upon him.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 420 of 420I think the warning and the miracle will take place after the second coming of Our Lord and the consummation of the earth by fire but just before the general judgement. Those in Heaven and Purgatory will witness a spiritual sign, in the spiritual pine trees, with spiritual eyes.
For God sees time not as we do. Whatever the contradictions being mentioned, the message of conversion and reparation is corroborated by visionaries at Medjugorje too.
Well sadly Joey never received his eyesight in this world. God bless him, I now don't believe in Garabandal or Medugorje, I believe in Transubstantation, Jesus in the Eucharist, Jesus suffices...
Dear All,
As a little child of 7 years I have the clear knowledge of the apparitions at Garabandal and all the other Blessed apparitions as they used to be shown & discussed very much in our hometown in Bombay which helped us as children & adults to become strong in our faith through the Power Of The Holy Sacraments, The Holy Eucharist & The Holy Rosary.
Today after so many years gone by I happened to watch the 1973 original interview of Conchita in which the The Spirit Of Truth has given a very clear understanding on the promises made by Our Blessed Mother Mary at Garabandal!
If we are Only totally inclined & open to hearing the small tiny voice speaking within that is the Spirit Of Truth it's only then we would be able to understand God's message & learn the true way of living our lives as we are presently living in such a worldwide turmoil of internal pain beyond our human understanding!
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<"My Dear Joseph,
Just two lines to tell you the message which the Blessed Virgin gave me for you today at the pines…she told me that the voice you heard was hers and that you shall see on the very day of the Miracle. ">
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Above I have re-quoted a part of the message to Joseph by Conchita and if you are truly spiritually connected with the Spirit Of truth then you will clearly see & understand Our Blessed Mother Mary' message concerning Joseph! " you shall see on the very day of the Miracle" one in human understanding has not witnessed "the day of the Miracle" surely & Joseph has gone ahead of us without seeing the Miracle and moreover not getting his vision as prophesied!?
Hence if "the day of the Miracle" has not happened before the passing away of Joseph then his vision restoration has to happen on "the day of the Miracle" as prophesied hence we need to wait in sure hope of "the day of the Miracle" to see Joseph again !
but the only difference will be that when we will see him again on " the day of the Miracle" we will see him with his vision!
As God's Holy Word spoken to Isaiah in Ch 55 Vs 11 "so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and succeed in the thing for which I sent it" has indeed come to pass from that day until this very moment in each of our lives but as we are blinded by our sinful nature, lack of faith & unbelief we do not see His Word come to pass in Joseph's prophecy.
All Glory & Praise To Our Lord Jesus who we are now preparing His Glorious return & as foretold by His Blessed Mother to us in so many worldwide apparitions how we need to prepare our heart's our mind's & our bodies to be worthy of standing in front of Him, Amen!
Mary Our Mother we humbly request your continued assistance in helping us prepare our lives to be worthy for the Coming for your Son Jesus once again in His Glory. AMEN!
I had breakfast and prayed with Joey Lomangino one morning in the summer of 1998 (I think it was). I have talked with him on several other occasions. He is all that that has been said about him. He was a simple and devout man, a man who wanted good for everyone he knew. His own faith and strength of belief was an inspiration to me and I was sad to hear of his passing. My you rest in peace Joey.
T. Gibson
God s time is not our time, and God s ways are not our ways. Who can positively say that Mr. Lomingio did not receive his sight before his death. That is what faith is all about, believing what we do not see. God bless him. What we did see was a good man, a man of faith.
God's will can most definitely change based on our actions...
Today's first liturgical reading:
When Hezekiah was mortally ill,
the prophet Isaiah, son of Amoz, came and said to him:
“Thus says the LORD: Put your house in order,
for you are about to die; you shall not recover.”
Then Hezekiah turned his face to the wall and prayed to the LORD:
“O LORD, remember how faithfully and wholeheartedly
I conducted myself in your presence,
doing what was pleasing to you!”
And Hezekiah wept bitterly.
Then the word of the LORD came to Isaiah: “Go, tell Hezekiah:
Thus says the LORD, the God of your father David:
I have heard your prayer and seen your tears.
I will heal you: in three days you shall go up to the LORD’s temple;
I will add fifteen years to your life.
I will rescue you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria;
I will be a shield to this city.”
Isaiah then ordered a poultice of figs to be taken
and applied to the boil, that he might recover.
Then Hezekiah asked,
“What is the sign that I shall go up to the temple of the LORD?”
Isaiah answered:
“This will be the sign for you from the LORD
that he will do what he has promised:
See, I will make the shadow cast by the sun
on the stairway to the terrace of Ahaz
go back the ten steps it has advanced.”
So the sun came back the ten steps it had advanced.
And if this is not something to ponder then let us ponder how God chose to save the city of Nineveh previously condemned to be destroyed, but at their act of humble fast, donning sackcloth and ashes, the city was spared.
The fact that an apparent prophecy regarding Joey Lomangino was not fulfilled is not for any person who claims to be a follower of Christ to dismiss what occurred in Garabandal.
We need to remember world history right around the time of Garabandal...
The date of the first apparition, October 18, 1961.
The first day of the Cuban Missle Crisis was October 16, 1962.
Sighs, brothers and sisters please reflect on this for a moment. God in his Gift of Divine Mercy may well have "extended" our time and what could have been.
Every human that ever lived was subject to Spiritual Warfare. Even Jesus was tempted and had to fight off the devil in the Garden and was sent an angel to strengthen him. Ergo, the conclusion will always be to PRAY, ASK, HOPE and TRUST in God for HIS truth.
I started reading the Writings of Luisa Piccarreta...she wrote the Book of Heaven...about her almost daily conversations with Jesus Christ...It is slowly changing my life to live more intimately in his Grace...
The Garabandal message is also mentioned (as true) in True life in God message (received by Vassula Ryden). Same is concerning teh Medjugorje. Repentance and prayer and peace is the one we need the most in these "COVID" days!
Short note after reading the article: I believe Joey as well as Padre Pio saw the miracle (may be the vision of as it will be). Many things God did not execute due too Mercy with us sinners! Similarly as in the Ninive or other places in Scripture?
If God wants, even the dead can see.
(Joe Lomangino,Padre Pio) They don't need to be alive.
I like to solve mysteries.
If you had known me, maybe you would have thought I was not one of you.
As I said, I just wanted to write this comment because I love solving mysteries.
Padre Pio sent a letter ,a veil,and his glove to Conchita ,letting her know he saw the miracle before his passing...
Th I s seems to be powerful evidence coming from one of the greatest saints whoever lived.
Ah but he DID see you people were taking it literally and not spiritually. Wake up.
Today I listened to a program about Garabandal apparitions because a book from Jose Maria Zabala with long conversations with Jacinta. Experience almost religious for several reasons but I received the verse of the day in the phone app.
In the program: the warning, the miracle, the punishment.
The warning: people will see how Jesus sees our souls (will be a brutal experience because I see the people think they are very good and ok, everybody blaming outside but never blaming ourselves).
The verse of the day. Psalm 139_23-24:
"Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts.
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." ATTENTION.
who believes in coincidences?. I don't like them usually. Crying.
For the author, Jacinta acts and speaks like a girl of 14, and now she's 73.
The words of Jacinta, like convesion TO GOD. She didn't say "to catholicism". About the date of the miracle because people died waiting for it, some people even bought houses in the are etc. she said: "but we don't need any miracle to be good AND TO CARE ABOUT OTHERS" (check out Isaiah 1, no more sacrifices just be good and care about the fatherless etc.). She said: "maybe I go or maybe not". You see? is not important to witness the miracle (will be the greatest, even than the dancing sun at Fatima?). Father Andreu, sent by the church to confirm it's a fake, saw the Virgin and in the way back died suddenly saying "I saw something wonderful...". And more..
In this article:
"...she told me that the voice you heard was hers and that you shall see on the very day of the Miracle."
I could add: "wherever you are"??
God bless, and get the book please.
Hi Anonymous (directly above),
Thanks for your interesting and thoughtful comments!
-Glenn
adtendite a falsis prophetis-Mt7;15
Made up by naughty girls!
How could Conchita get stressed that Padre pio had died before he seen the miracle if today 60 years later still no MIRACLE!!!!
She thought that he could have more than 130 years old???
Another interpretation of this prophesy, and I apologize if it's contained on this website and I simply haven't seen it, is the combining of two thoughts:
1) Joey, upon his passing was shown the miracle, as part of his (assuming favorable) judgement
2) The prophesy "you shall see on the very day of the Miracle" could mean the Miracle will occur on June 18th of a future year.
Asà es, si papa pio vio el milagro antes de morir, igual joey pudo ver antes de morir, para Dios nada es imposible, la confusión y ceguera espiritual esta en nosotros, hombre de poca Fe, como dice en las escrituras.
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