****IMPORTANT UPDATE: 9/27/2015:
With the passing of this day and Pope Francis leaving American soil comes the confirmation that the purported "Locutions to the World" messages have now unequivocally been proven to be completely false, and therefore they should be rejected by all of the faithful. I urge anyone who might still be considering them to be authentic to sincerely reflect upon the false prediction of "Mary" in the article below, and to preserve the purity and the integrity of their Catholic faith.
"And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not fear him." Deuteronomy 18:21-22
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Within the next few days, those who have been following the anonymous visionary who posts alleged heavenly messages under the title of "Locutions to the World" will have proof whether the purported visions are authentic, or not.
On September 3, 2015, the visionary/locutionist had a message posted to the Locutions.org website entitled "The Pope's Visit and the Collapse", purportedly from the Virgin Mary stating:
MaryI cannot say that the economic collapse is distant when really it is near, or that it will be short when really it will be long, or that it will be easy, when really it will be quite difficult. Only truth gives the light needed for hope. So, I will now speak words of truth.This collapse has been a long time in coming, preceded by many incidents that should have awakened the world. God is not the cause of the collapse and the collapse is not a divine chastisement. The collapse comes because of man’s free will and the choices he has made. The collapse has no purpose. It results from purposeless decisions made from self-interest.The collapse will not come before Pope Francis comes to America but it will happen while he is in America. I deliberately brought the Pope to America, the world’s financial center, to be here when it takes place. I want him to be part of the picture. I want him to be present. His presence in America will be my sign that the Church is very important in saving mankind from its own follies. Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation. In this way, I will begin to exalt the Church as a beacon of light in the darkness.During September, Congress will be voting on the Iran treaty. Terrorism and economic difficulties are the twin evils which will mark the years ahead. All of these good and evil forces, papacy, economic collapse and nuclear war will be merged in a single unforgettable moment, as they all come together in September, 2015.Comment: This is an extraordinary locution.
A very specific prophesy!
"....The collapse will not come before Pope Francis comes to America but it will happen while he is in America. I deliberately brought the Pope to America, the world’s financial center, to be here when it takes place. I want him to be part of the picture. I want him to be present. His presence in America will be my sign that the Church is very important in saving mankind from its own follies. Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation."
One thing is for sure--There is no wiggle room here! This visionary will rise or fall on this prophesy, and we shall all find out in the matter of days what the truth is concerning these purported heavenly messages.
A little background info on "Locutions to the World"
The purported heavenly messages date back to December 10, 2010. For the first few years, they were vetted by a prominent and well respected Catholic priest named Monsignor John Essef, a diocesan priest of Scranton, PA., who was a spiritual director for Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Up until recently, the following statement from Monsignor Essef was published on the Locutions.org website:
According to publicly available information, the website domain name "Locutions.org" was purchased in June 2011 by a person (name withheld) from Steubenville, OH. The domain has since been renewed through private registration by a company in Chesterbrook, PA. The only advertising and sales on the locutions.org website is sales of five books on AMAZON.com containing the purported messages themselves. The books average in price at around $6.50
A commentary about "Anonymous" visionaries in general
This writer is not very favorable in general towards "Anonymous" private revelations like this one because quite frankly there is no accountability to the person. Since they are anonymous, one cannot discern anything about their person or background, other than what is revealed in the purported messages. To me, when a alleged visionary or mystic identifies themselves and puts themselves and their reputation out there for all the world to discern, this at least initially lends some credibility to any private revelation. At least one can respect such a person for holding themselves publicly accountable for being the instrument of the private revelation, but with anonymous persons such is not the case, and this is why this writer is not at all favorable towards "anonymous" visionaries. And the recent scandalous fraud of the anonymous "Maria Divine Mercy" (aka Mary Carberry) very poignantly illustrates this fact, I believe.
Stark prophesy and blood on the moon
At this moment, the prophetic stage is set, and of course this writer is obligated to cover this story, given that I host this "Mystics of the Church" website. Stay tuned folks! The next few days will give clear and definitive evidence as to the authenticity of the locutions from this purported visionary. And as the widely reported "Blood moon" crosses the sky on Sunday evening, September 27, Pope Francis officially departs America at 8PM that evening, so the prophesy clock is definitely ticking down fast! There will surely be those who may want to try to downplay "Mary's" very specific predictions to the locutionist here. At Fatima, She told the children that She would come to them on the 13th of each month, and so She did. If it was really She who gave this specific prediction to this locutionist, then the events will occur as She promised, that is that "...the collapse will occur while he is in America" and also "Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation."
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The purported heavenly messages date back to December 10, 2010. For the first few years, they were vetted by a prominent and well respected Catholic priest named Monsignor John Essef, a diocesan priest of Scranton, PA., who was a spiritual director for Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Up until recently, the following statement from Monsignor Essef was published on the Locutions.org website:
"For many years, I have been director for a special soul. Five years ago, Jesus and Mary began to speak to this soul through the gift of locutions (as described by John of the Cross). These locutions now total over 800. I have discerned the validity of these locutions. Until now, these locutions were personal teachings given for the small community that gathered in prayer. Beginning on December 10, 2010, a new phase began, namely, some locutions were to be told to the whole world...."
However, in mid-2014, Monsignor Essef's statement and name was completely removed from the website. I have privately been informed from two different reliable sources that Monsignor Essef publicly disassociated himself with the alleged locutionist back in 2014, even using a lawyer to have his name and picture removed from the Locutions.org website.
According to publicly available information, the website domain name "Locutions.org" was purchased in June 2011 by a person (name withheld) from Steubenville, OH. The domain has since been renewed through private registration by a company in Chesterbrook, PA. The only advertising and sales on the locutions.org website is sales of five books on AMAZON.com containing the purported messages themselves. The books average in price at around $6.50
This writer is not very favorable in general towards "Anonymous" private revelations like this one because quite frankly there is no accountability to the person. Since they are anonymous, one cannot discern anything about their person or background, other than what is revealed in the purported messages. To me, when a alleged visionary or mystic identifies themselves and puts themselves and their reputation out there for all the world to discern, this at least initially lends some credibility to any private revelation. At least one can respect such a person for holding themselves publicly accountable for being the instrument of the private revelation, but with anonymous persons such is not the case, and this is why this writer is not at all favorable towards "anonymous" visionaries. And the recent scandalous fraud of the anonymous "Maria Divine Mercy" (aka Mary Carberry) very poignantly illustrates this fact, I believe.
Stark prophesy and blood on the moon
At this moment, the prophetic stage is set, and of course this writer is obligated to cover this story, given that I host this "Mystics of the Church" website. Stay tuned folks! The next few days will give clear and definitive evidence as to the authenticity of the locutions from this purported visionary. And as the widely reported "Blood moon" crosses the sky on Sunday evening, September 27, Pope Francis officially departs America at 8PM that evening, so the prophesy clock is definitely ticking down fast! There will surely be those who may want to try to downplay "Mary's" very specific predictions to the locutionist here. At Fatima, She told the children that She would come to them on the 13th of each month, and so She did. If it was really She who gave this specific prediction to this locutionist, then the events will occur as She promised, that is that "...the collapse will occur while he is in America" and also "Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation."
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309 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 309 of 309I am very sorry for those who feel the need to try to find some obscure loophole to salvage what they should really just accept: -The locutions have been confirmed to be false.
There is nothing wrong in being deceived for a time. Even many of the most pious and devout persons along with some of the greatest minds who have walked this earth at times fell for one deception or another. In recent times, just look at the situation with St. Pope John Paul II and his support of Fr. Marcial of the Legionaires of Christ. The important thing is to learn from it. The wisdom that is gained from such lessons is in fact very valuable.
-Glenn Dallaire
"Glenn Dallaire said...
I am very sorry for those who feel the need to try to find some obscure loophole to salvage what they should really just accept: -The locutions have been confirmed to be false."
I THINK the MILLIONS will agree that TRIP is not the same as VISIT. Why you would consider that an OBSCURE LOOPHOLE is beyond me. Perhaps the MARKETS are not CRASHING right now either and didn't BEGIN when POPE FRANCIS was in NEW YORK CITY. Everything Our Lady said will come true to the letter.
On the Facebook page my questioning them for the last few days have all been deleted and I've been blocked from commenting at all. Guess we are not allowed to raise questions -Dean
Hi Glen and all--
I think we should take a more balanced approach as a few others have stated above in the past day. When it comes to the faith and morals, if the messages directly contradict Church doctrine in any explicit way, that is immediately an issue, and ought to be dismissed relatively quickly. In LTTW I have not found yet any real issue in regards to Church doctrine (I have contacted the Bishop of Scranton to see if he can have someone qualified check out the faith and morals of the messages).
If there are issues in regards to a type of "future-telling prophecy" that is less of an issue. Obviously, it should be taken into consideration, but we do not have a God's eyes view so we can't see the whole picture.
The LTTW have contained beautiful reflections on many things for prayer. They have implored us to pray daily the rosary, receive the sacraments, and stay close to the Church. They have also implored us not to speculate about the specifics of how the future events will exactly play out. They reveal something about the events so we may go to prayer and place our trust in God and not in our limited human reason.
Why exact dates were given in the past month, I do not know. Only time will tell exactly what the point of the purported messages of September mean if they do have a heavenly origin.
So let us keep our peace, and remember if they help out faith let us receive them, if they do not then we are free to set them aside!
Peace and Joy!
Has anyone watched and followed 'Charlie Johnston/talk in Birmingham'? I find his message short & to the point. "Acknowledge God, take the Next Right Step & be a sign of Hope!" Church teachings & the Bible are our signs!
The clear thought has occurred to me that this is much worse than failed prophecy. This is a blatant attempt to manipulate the markets and in so doing make a boat-load of money for the false seer. (and paahitepu nailed that one thing about the next Pope will do the consecration whereas I thought it had said Francis would do it many msgs back - the writer cannot even keep track of what he/she wrote a long time ago!)
My guess is this false prophet shorted some stocks, and then tried to induce a stock-market crash with these messages. He or she was hoping this rumor would spread so much that literally millions of people would sell stocks to put their money into cash, thus INDUCING a stock market collapse, hoping that as more and more people sold their stocks, the market would go down a lot each day so that by Friday it would totally crash. (And actually the market did go down each day but no doubt not because of these messages which have such a puny following - the money experts have been saying a bear market is here.)
So this false prophet tried to cause a market crash, and at the same time tried no doubt to make a bucket full of money by shorting some stocks (shorts make money when the stock goes down, for those who don't know.)
This person is worse than a mental case imho, he or she is outright evil. And attempts such as this to manipulate the markets is a crime. Maybe the SEC should investigate?
God bless you.
So then the most likely scenario is: this was an attempt at making money via a 'self-fulfilling' prophecy by the so-called locutionist, a person who would also gain fame. And all "in the name of God, and Blessed Mary." Has this person no shame? Apparently not. As I said, outright, pure evil. God bless you.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/254819-senate-rejects-effort-to-defund-planned-parenthood
The economic collapse has been happening for many weeks now. It is happening so slow people do not think it is a collapse because they do not hear the media clamoring about it. Just take a look at the Industrial indexes over the last month or two around the world...Today at 12:31 the DOW Jones is at -241 . A financial collapse does not have to happen in one instant..Just look around you, do not be fooled and use the gifts God has instilled in all of us to see the signs of the times.
HELLO ! ! ! is anybody home??!
"It really tanked on 8/24 and started looking ugly again on Friday."
► This is When Bonds Go Kaboom!
Wolf Richter • September 27, 2015
http://wolfstreet.com/2015/09/27/junk-bonds-distresses-debt-ratio-spiking-spreads/
► World Markets Weekend Update: Another Bad Week in a Nasty Year
Doug Short • September 26th, 2015
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/World-Market-Snapshot.php
► http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/markets/international/world-indexes-in-2015.gif
EXCITA, DOMINE, POTENTIAM TUAM, ET VENI.†
Here is a good article. read it because it is true. 9-25-2105
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-stock-markets-of-the-10-largest-global-economies-are-all-crashing
The site of Locutions.org is down.. WHAT DOES IT MEAN....I wonder????
Yes, I too just checked it and it appears that Locutions.org website is down. Not sure if this is just temporary but hopefully it will be shut down permanently, so that people might not be inadvertently misled in the future from this particular locution.
-Glenn Dallaire
to Glen-
Crux sacra sit mihi lux!
Nunquam draco sit mihi dux!
Vade retro Satana!
Nunquam suade mihi vana!
Sunt mala quae libas.
Ipse venena bibas!
not coming back here.
I am thankful that the person behind the site took it down. I think this shows they are of right mind, and probably had the best of intentions and believed they were doing God's work. They also most likely realize that they were being lead in the wrong direction. Her spiritual director I am hoping helped her see the damaged caused.
Someone needs to let the people behind the FB page know they should follow suite. I would, but they blocked me :) I didnt even say anything bad at all, I just urged that they reconsider if the prophecies did not play out as were clearly stated.
What Charlie wrote today is exactly why I love reading his stuff. It feels genuine. I dont know if the storm thing is real or not, but i dont get any sense at all that he is trying to do anything but God's will. Only time will tell if he is right nor not. He wrote about the locutions
Podcast is down too.. http://www.spreaker.com/user/locutionstotheworld
Imagine all the thousands of man hours that have gone into this
"Anonymous said...
to Glen-
Crux sacra sit mihi lux!
Nunquam draco sit mihi dux!
Vade retro Satana!
Nunquam suade mihi vana!
Sunt mala quae libas.
Ipse venena bibas!
not coming back here.
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I understand you are angry over this situation but I am wondering why you would blame me for the reporting of it? It is kind of like not buying a newspaper anymore because they reported on a news article that angered you. The Pope came and went and the failure of the prophesy speaks for itself. Why get mad at me for it? It seems to me that your anger is very misplaced and misdirected. I pray for you and wish you peace of heart and mind.
May God bless you and your loved ones,
Glenn Dallaire
To everyone who is suggesting that an economic collapse has actually happened: The locutions clearly stated that a major collapse would occur while the Holy Father was here, and he would be unable to ignore it - it would cause him to depart from his prepared speeches and address the new situation. Nothing even remotely like this happened.
I was believing those locutions almost 100%, and am just as disappointed as you are by this; but I don't want to be inventing ways to explain away this unfortunately false prediction. And I'm very unhappy to see the website disappeared, and the facebook page unavailable. Although, this may be to the credit of the person receiving the locutions - they may very well have concluded what we have: they are false, and everything needs to be immediately discontinued.
I wish I knew more of the facts behind it. So many years this person received these messages, and now for it to come to this!
Even people who receive visions, thoughts etc can make mistakes. No need to blame the locutionist. Give them the benefit of the doubt. Pray, Pray, Pray, then wait and see... Its all we can do..
Let's wait and see when the Pope comes to America if the US collapse will begin When a car's tire starts leaking doesn't it begin to collapse ? it can have a slow, med, or fast air leak. A collapse usually happens over a period of time right? Even the big 2008 housing collapse which nearly brought down the market took a little bit of time. It didn't happen overnight. Didn't Our Lady say that as time goes on all the world will see that life as we know it will change. Here's a locution you need to read:
Mary
The Shaking and the Calm
The world will begin to shake. What was thought secure and certain will be seen as toppling and collapsing. This will cause panic. It will followed by a short period of calm, when things seem to settle down. Do not be fooled. The original tremors are a warning signal calling people to turn back to their faith. The time of calm is given so decisions can be made and the faith relationship can be restored.
I must insist this time of calm is not to be wasted. Otherwise, the final chance will be squandered. After the calm, comes the collapse. Every institution not built on solid rock will go under. All of the weaknesses built into the economic system will become evident. Trust will vanish. People will say, “Why didn’t I see this coming?” Despair and fear will grip many. Earth is all they have and their earth is collapsing.
A Regained Faith
But those who used the time of calm to strengthen their faith, those who again sought the blessings of the Church and returned with their families to regular worship, these will find the light and strength that they need. Their newly-regained faith will be their light in the darkness. I cannot be any clearer.
Comment: So many have abandoned (I will not say “lost”) their faith. The economic collapses will be a sign to them to return to their faith. They will have a short period of time to do this.
I do not know the locutionist but let's be kind. It is not uncommon for individuals to be in a state of meditation and perceive thoughts which are purely their own, thpughts that are deep, mystetious, insightful but are not of supernatural origin. I wonder what torment he ir dhe is in now? What must this individual be experiencing now. Let's be gentle. Let's kerp hin or her in prayer. I go by anonymous on the post but my name is Sue. I am not familiar with changing settings.
The LTTW website is no longer available. Interesting. Never thought it sounded much like Mary...
I would like to make it very clear that I fervently and wholeheartedly believe that we should all pray not only for all those who have been affected by this situation, but also for the locutionist herself.
At the same time, I also believe that it must be made very clear that these locutions purportedly from the Virgin Mary--at least the ones dating from 9/3/2015 onwards--- are now unequivocally proven to be COMPLETELY FALSE. I believe it is important to be clear on this so that from this point on no one else might be deceived or misled.
Lets not try to twist things--The economy did NOT crash when the Pope was in America, AND the Pope did NOT have to "shift his message and address the new world situation." BOTH of these are failed prophesies. Don't bother trying to twist either of these failed prophesies or try to tweak them to fit some other concocted scenario, because you just make yourself look foolish. Accept it as a complete fail, learn from it, and then move on.
While have to be very charitable and prayerful towards others concerned in this matter including the locutionist, yet at the same time we must call what is false to be false, especially for the sake of the TRUE visionaries/mystics/prophets throughout the world.
-Glenn Dallaire
Joe in London said
I am holding Fire Keeping faith staying alert and not quick to jump to negative comments... neither too quick to dismiss. There have been many messages contained within the Locutions which have been hard to disseminate. Quote on the First page was 'These Locutions are Private Revelations and there is no Need to believe in them'
That being said plenty evidences have come to light and foretold before which the locutions have spoken of events ahead of time.
These words are highly intelligent yet simple and relevant in many respects to be heeded. We should not gloat at the knowledge of disaster to come remember prayers can turn things around and only Heaven knows all those souls unified in prayer during the Popes visit could have averted much of the turmoil that at the precipice of collapse. As Far as I know Monsignor Essef endorsed the site and simply removed himself so as not to be not to be a distraction and bombarded with letters and emails.
Below is an Message received from a close associate of the clergy
Letter received confirming Bishop Essef is still the spiritual director of the Messenger of Notre Dame * *
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envelope
Letter received:
Hello,
I just read your last word on your blog about Mgr Esseff and message www.locutions.org .
I have had exchanges with its secretariat late 2013 and mid-2014 and can assure you of positive response from them regarding his spiritual direction for this messenger.
I understand also that the Bishop is always spiritual director for the soul, but withdrew his name from the site with messages because he was bombarded with messages from all over the world he could neither follow nor respond given its many functions. He therefore withdrew the name of the site but remains in the background, the Catholic priest mentioned text to the back of livre.Et comments on posts would be from her.
It seems important to confirm his spiritual direction before publishing information about it.
For the authenticity of messages is another matter of course ...
You're not the only one to have doubts about his leadership, I saw the same doubt expressed elsewhere. But people who know him assure that always follows the soul, so I signal, that's all. When we publish information about others, especially priests, it seems important to confirm.
Many greetings,
A read
You Decide!
It looks like the web site is no longer functioning.
Pope Shifts His Message Explained
To decipher the meaning of this prophecy one has to look at the language of prophecy. Just as poems have a certain language so does prophecy where it can take a very liberal attitude towards linguistics So at least don't accuse me of twisting words just to make them come true in this instance. Rather it's a question of the genre and conventions of prophecy.
Toward means around the end of his trip: that can be before or after. So it will obviously be after. Markets are now collapsing and Pope Francis will soon address the new world situation.
"Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation. In this way, I will begin to exalt the Church as a beacon of light in the darkness." - Mary, Locutions.org (site is temporarily down)
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"This collapse will be the final warning. So that my message will be believed, it will take place while the Pope is at the world’s financial center."
This is different, because it used the wording "So that my message will be believed" which means its for public consumption.
Maybe it is time to close comments on this article, Glenn and repost what you said about this being a false message. People just keep trying to rationalize the world situation with the phony message. Just my opinion, it is your website.
The psychological term for people attempting to still make failed prophecies "true" is cognitive consistency. It occurs because people are trying to avoid cognitive dissonance or the discomfort caused by conflicting beliefs and attitudes which leads them to having to change their own beliefs and attitudes. Having to make this change can be quite stressful and painful. Cognitive consistency research has proved commonly occurs when fake prophecies fail and is a psychological reaction. It is unkind to call people engaging in it foolish. Please consult a good priest with psychology training or a psychologist if you are suffering because of these events. Prayer of course and open listening to God are also needed.
It is possible the site has been prematurely judged. Most posters only looked at US market activity. Checking the Asian markets Sunday evening (Monday morning there, and Pope Francis was still here), A drop of 1.43% (average of fallen markets) was observed. A European market drop of 2.24% followed and then 2.5% for the US. Current Asian markets are down over 2% at this posting (Tuesday morning there). If it continues to snowball into a collapse, the site will be vindicated, as the event started while the Pope was in the US.
If it turns out to be just a correctional dip. the site will be adjudged false.
Unfortunately, we mostly tend to think of ourselves (USA) as the only place that matters.
And while his Holiness did not change one of his final messages in response to the collapse, He did change it, abandoning the prepared script.
Concerning the prophesy possibly still being true Mary in the message supposedly said
"The collapse will not come before Pope Francis comes to America but it will happen while he is in America. I deliberately brought the Pope to America, the world’s financial center, to be here when it takes place. I want him to be part of the picture. I want him to be present."
**No crash and also the pope is no longer present in America. This definitely did not happen**
And then Mary supposedly adds "toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation"
**No new world situation while pope was in america. This definitely did not happen either. Its time now to face reality and the truth.**
"Anonymous said...
Maybe it is time to close comments on this article, Glenn and repost what you said about this being a false message. People just keep trying to rationalize the world situation with the phony message. Just my opinion, it is your website."
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Well, I do see the wisdom in your comment Anon but at the same time I have always wanted this website to be a place for everyone to share their perspectives, and so I have never closed comments on any article before. So, I'm thinking also for now it might best to let those who need to vent to get it out of their system, so that maybe perhaps those involved might recover from the disappointment quicker. Just my .02 cents anyway, for whatever it is worth.
-Glenn Dallaire
Locutions.org is now down from the Internet.
Everyone keeps forgetting that Mary/the locutionist also predicted nuclear conflict with Iran beginning while the Pope was here... I wish I could go back and cite it, but the page has been taken off the web (my browser said the domain has been sold. Weird that would happen after not delivering... ) but she ended one of her messages by saying that terrorism and economic distress are going to be bound together in an unforgettable moment, or something to that effect. So that's a pretty major prediction to ignore after being wrong.
Additionally, is it weird AT ALL to anyone else that Mary said the economic collapse is basically what we get for going off the gold standard? That just seems like the most bizarre thing for her to comment on.
"Bad things will happen because of sin" makes total sense.
"Bad things will happen because of paper money," seems less divine, somehow.
No? Just me?
At any rate, some "messages" appeared yesterday saying the reckoning has been "delayed" - back dated, of course, to Sept. 20th, prior to Pope Francis' arrival- for those who saw and defend the messages-
I could post tonight's lotto numbers tomorrow morning, back date the post on the platform, and have a 100% accurate statement too.
The fact is, I have checked the site every day during Francis' visit (partly out of paranoia, partly out of skepticism) and none of the "new" messages were posted until after he left, despite supposedly pre-dating his arrival.
But now the site is down completely so I guess that really tells us what's what.
Let me remind the writer that every saint and seers of Apparitions have been wrong,,,, at the same time hidden information later revealed as later proved some correct. When those proved wrong were asked what happened they simply reply "I was wrong" with a smile, the reason being it insures humility and they see the situation as a way to purify pride. Seers are subject to a great danger known as Spiritual pride the Pharisee fail subject to.
Petrus
Some have raised a valid point: even authentic mystics have "got it wrong."
Let's assume that the alleged mystic in question simply got it wrong...
**** Why, then, does the LTTW site appear to have been taken down? ****
The prophetic message was given as a DIRECT MESSAGE COMING FROM THE VIRGIN MARY, therefore it is not the locutionist who somehow got it wrong, its that:
1) The messages are strictly of human origin
2) The messages are from demonic origin.
Either way, the messages ARE NOT OF HEAVENLY ORIGIN. The Virgin Mary does not fail in Her predictions. The locutionist simply passed along the prophetic message and the prediction turned out to be a complete fail.
-Glenn Dallaire
Why judge; why do we have a need to make a final judgement? If dark, why pour energy into/ if not, why poke and prod? We have already received all the commands and instructions and helps from our Most Blessed Mother that we could possibly need. As she mentioned at Medjugori, I believe, Why are you not doing the things I asked? Why look for more secrets? Humility...
Would that each of these comments was a letter to Congress about taxpayer funding of monstrous sin.
I must just add one additional observation that some of you have overlooked. First, financial markets were closed while Pope was in America. Also, the stock market has been dropping for the last month, it has dropped from a high point of 18,000 to 16000 today. You can call it market correction. A few analyst have been predicting a market correction for September, and it may yet happen. I would say that it is already here. I am not here to convince anyone about the validity of the website locutions.org, and it is up to each individual to decide for themselves.
In my business we are already seeing a collapse. We hear the government staying we have less than 6% unemployment, but can we believe that statistic. I can't. The government is clearly deceptive in their statistics. What is keeping the US economy going is the fact the rest of the World is doing worse than we are, and many are investing their money in the UNITED STATES, but that is going to end. Our country, for the last 12 years has been spending more than we are earning, and that has clearly had consequences that are finally going to hit us with train wreck, and just how hard it will hit God only knows. In short, the collapse is already here, but many don't really notice it because they are not looking at the entire global picture.
The messages are not false and they will return. I am surprised that no one picked up on something. But I will wait to see if anyone can see what happened and I will post later. Remember our lady said that NOT ALL will be given to understand how to interpret her messages, not saying that I am the only one who can but I am sure there is a priest or Bishop who able to interpret them and see what I see.
Marisa, FIAT! Stay in the divine will my sister!
FIAT, FIAT, FIAT
Oh Marisa, this gets tiring. We all knew there would be those who just refuse to let it go, as with all falsehoods such as Bayside.
Let it go. The Pope DID NOT change his message while in the US to address the new world situation, as prophesied, because there was no new world situation to address. The locutions are not from heaven. Please, for your sake, let it go.
We should not act like gnostics with 'secret' knowledge that only we can detect. That is pride, and we need to be humble and admit these are false. Our Lady would not deceive us or be so tricky. Satan would.
God bless you.
Since there are so many complexities as well as variables when it comes to the arena of "locutions", sometimes (as many examples from the history of locutions attest to) an immediate literal "take" on a limited one time message with a 10 year span for this particular individual might just lack a better intended understanding not immediately interpreted. It may be good to remember similar reactions in the past, For instance:
For starters, there was message 287 (one of Fr. Gobbi‘s alleged messages from our Lady). In it, our Lady contradicts Pope John Paul II and Sr. Lucia, one of the seers of Fatima—both of whom have confirmed that Pope’s consecration of Russia and the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, made on March 25, 1984, fulfilled our Lady‘s request. According to Fr. Gobbi’s locutions, the Blessed Mother disagrees and continues to ask for another consecration.
(similarly strong guidance on this question included in these LTTW)
and esp. this Gobbi one with a recognized great specificity:
Message 532 says in part: "I [Mary] confirm to you that, by the great jubilee of the year two thousand, there will take place the triumph of my Immaculate Heart, of which I foretold you at Fatima, and this will come to pass with the return of Jesus in glory, to establish his Reign in the world. Thus you will at last be able to see with your own eyes the new heavens and the new earth" (To The Priests, Our Lady’s Beloved Sons, U.S. National Headquarters of the MMP [1995], 893).
In hindsight, then, Fr. Gobbi realizes that his interpretation of Our Lady's words were not precisely what he had originally thought. There is a basic need to be mindful of the fact that, when a mystic receives messages, his or her mission is to convey that message to the world. Our Lady gave Fr. Gobbi this locution, and he dutifully wrote it down. Fr. Gobbi has told me on numerous occasions that Our Lady does not reveal everything to him, but only that which is necessary for him to accomplish his particular mission. Consequently, he cannot always give a full explanation of the interior locutions which he receives, but only his understanding of them based on the knowledge that he has of the messages. It is very important to understand that Fr. Gobbi, as with any mystic, does not have all the details, and thus he too must walk on faith and trust.
(cont'd below)
(cont'd from above)
And one might notice that this next example involved one of the "mystics" listed on the side panel of this site: Blessed Dina Belanger:
An excellent example of this is to be found in the life of Blessed Dina Belanger (Sister Marie Sainte-Cecile de Rome) of the Sisters of Jesus and Mary in Quebec. She, too, received a heavenly message which at the time was believed to be false, and it was only after her death that the realization was made that everyone, including Blessed Dina herself, had wrongfully interpreted the message which she had received from Jesus. In May of 1922, the Lord told her: "You will make profession; and a year later, on the feast of the Assumption of my Mother, I shall come and claim you by death." She understood from this that in fifteen months, she would die; August 15, 1923 came and went, and she did not undergo a physical death. It was only later that the message was understood. The Lord had meant that she would die to herself and from that day on she would be completely one with him in living in his Divine Will. She writes, "He substituted Himself for me ... My joy to know that I no longer existed was unspeakable.
One could say something similar had happened with Garabandal and the now confusing message given re: Joey Lomangino. What exactly was heaven’s meaning over and above a literal acceptance of what was expected to happen before his death? People are still confused and talking about this particularly strong and specific message but still continue to follow Garabandal with much discussion and belief. And apparitions/visions are in an even higher category for worthy to believe than locutions that are known to involve much more of the filter of the locutionist's personal understanding, personality and background/experience. And what part did the Church’s own delay in action play in the originally expected timeline? A lot is involved with the respect that heaven always holds for every individual’s free will response….including Church authorities upon which approvals can rely.
http://www.dongobbi.dk/andre_sider/roux.html
Since the Pope was in New York City, the World's Financial Center
Worldwide Sell off Extends to Second Day
http://www.ticker.com/?page=market_update&story=Worldwide-Sell-off-Extends-to-Second-Day&id=61751
CHANGE IN WORLD SITUATION FROM COLLAPSE IMMINENT
In poetic linguistics of prophecy (the language of prophecy), the meaning of Toward in the Locutions quote means close to. In Heaven's perspective there is no time like on earth so it can go in any direction. TRIP instead of VISIT was stated to elongate the time when the world situation would change.
Nevertheless, this means that the change of the world situation is imminent. World stocks are still in down mode from when Pope Francis was in New York City.
Oxford Dictionary for TOWARD: Close or closer to (a particular time):
"towards the end of April" (It technically here does not need to be before)
Look at it this way: If Time Travel were invented then the definition of Toward would change. We could go close to the time of the event even when the event was over.
"Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation. In this way, I will begin to exalt the Church as a beacon of light in the darkness." - Mary,Locutions.org
Careful about throwing around that single quote from Deuteronomy. God called Jonah to preach to Ninevah that He was going to destroy it. But God 'repented", not because of anything the the Ninevites did but because of His own "change" of heart. Should we call Jonah a "false prophet" and God a liar?
If you read the books containing the last few years of locutions, you will see that everything has been spot on, and every message has been calling man back to God. About a month ago the messages website was being redirected and also flagged. Now all of a sudden there's a message that DOESN'T come true. Put down your stones people! Can't you see that this recent scandal with the messages could possibly be a trick from satan! I know people who have given up vices and started back to confession and church because of these messages. Satan was definately NOT at work within the span of these messages over the past years, but he may have something to do with this scandal. My advice to everyone is this; The blessed mother has helped multitudes of people over the past few years with these messages. So lets give it a month to see what she does to clear this whole thing up. Let's all right now privately say: dear Blessed mother, I am not abandoning you or my faith over this, I am still with you 100%. Imagine how she must feel if I am right. The last thing she needs is to lose credibility among her believers.
Regardless of the various opinions people might have concerning Charlie Johnston, I will say that the article he wrote yesterday concerning Locutions to the World mirrors almost exactly how I feel concerning this entire situation. Only difference is, it seems to me that he says things much more eloquently that I do! What I especially appreciate his emphasis on charity towards others concerning this entire matter.
While it may be perceived in my own article here and in my subsequent comments that I personally come off as being strident against LTTW, such is not the case at all. I am quite saddened for the locutionist and for everyone involved in this matter, and I have prayed and will continue to pray for everyone touched by this.
The thing is, this failed prediction and statement of Sept 3 was made and was given in the Name of Mary, and it is precisely this false statement attributed to Our Blessed Mother that I feel needs to be shown for what it is: A false prophesy that did not come from the Virgin Mary.
As for the locutionist, and those who have followed the purported messages--I sincerely pray that God may enlighten and guide everyone concerned in this matter.
-Glenn Dallaire
Could you imagine a Protestant reading the comments people are posting in regards to these "locutions"? This has to confirm to them that many Catholics have lost their collective minds.
How could a Protestant possibly be attracted to the beauty of the Catholic faith after reading the obsession many posters seem to have with following this mystic or that mystic when we have the words of Christ Himself in the Bible.
With all due respect, if people posting here have spent more time today reading locutions from the LTTW or any other locutionist than they have reading the Bible, praying the Liturgy of the Hours, reading the early Church Fathers, reading the writings of the Saints, reading the Catholic Cathecism, or meditating on the Rosary,, then I think you are misled.
I was very dissapointed that the locutions did not come to fruition. But yesterday and today I still went to Mass, prayed the rosary. the Chaplet of Divine Mercy, Liturgy of the hours, holy face devotion etc etc etc. Thanks be to God. The Sacred Heart of Jesus, and the Immaculate Heart of Mary still strengthen me. I was afraid my faith would have been severely shaken. In the final analysis Faith is a gift from God. Thank you God. It doesn't depend on me and mankind or locutions or anything else but God!!!!!
Isn't the Protestant church the most separated one in the world? I do agree though that we should go back to the roots: the sacraments!! I gave the locutions the benefit of the doubt after the conclave messages but did come to the conclusion now that heaven, that God, can't be wrong and wouldn't mislead his children. If the Holy Spirit has given us all we need to reach our saint goal on earth, do we need to follow private revelations? I for myself did believe them, I was waiting for updates and got drawn into prayer and deeper faith. So I guess God writes straight on crocked lines, but there was also this kind of sensation, which I always knew was not good. I got to the point where I don't want to follow anything else anymore but trust in what Jesus has given us directly and what the Holy Spirit has entrusted the church with. This will be my sole source in the future. Why look for something else if the tools were given to us already? We just need to use them and divine guidance will come. And internal peace!
M.T.
Is looking at locutions by these dubious mystics really any different than looking at your horoscope? In both cases a person wants to possess secret knowledge about the future. I thought God expects us to walk by faith.
I don't see how one can state unequivocally proven and then offer no proof. A second hand account about Monsignor Essef. A personal interpretation of the word 'collapse' when the authorities have planned for decades to avoid a 1929 panic. A denial over that the Pope did not change his message when you don't have privy to his personal thoughts on what he planned or didn't and likely unknown even to him as spontaneous as he is. Not to mention one of his final statements was about entrusting the US to Mary, our patroness. I'm not fully endorsing any modern day mystic or prophet as the proof is in the pudding and we likely haven't seen the pudding yet but really if you were a lawyer, I don't know that I would buy your argument either any more than I would follow wholeheartedly a modern day mystic without a grain of salt. There is more shrillness there than reason.
really liked the comment above about protestants thinking Catholics have lost their minds with their obsession with locutions. Why do Catholics spend so much time and energy on things other than Christ and the Bible? (Mary, saints, rosary, statues, etc)
There is more than just the bible. There is the bible, the holy communion, reconciliation. Jesus gave us to his (our) mother and gave us his mother, on the cross. And God did sent out Mary to Fatima, Lourdes and Medjugorie to reach out to his children. If God does so, there must be a reason. Now, Sometimes people adore her and that's wrong. We shall only worship and adore God, but walking with Mary leads to God. Always wondered why Protestants who are all about the bible don't see that the Holy Spirit speaks about her through the prroohets over and over again. Again, there is only one God, but he gave us Mary as a guide as there is no one else in history who could bring us to him the way she can.
Anonymous said...
Is looking at locutions by these dubious mystics really any different than looking at your horoscope? In both cases a person wants to possess secret knowledge about the future. I thought God expects us to walk by faith.
September 29, 2015 at 11:38 PM
Um, yes, quite a difference, because the Church permits the one and does not permit the other. Let's not get too carried away here. Without the blessed interjection of heaven for "dying" man with such private revelations or locutions as Divine Mercy (a long time denied and questioned help from heaven); or Fr. Gobbi with the MMP, a real saving grace for Marian Priests to receive the support they needed at a time where the priesthood was accepting the ways of the world and faithful priests were being ostracized; and many others that give guidance to modern man, floundering without help like trying to fly without a co-pilot at a time when the Church is scandalized and people are tempted to leave in droves. Thank God for His never giving up on the faithful and even condescending to reach into the mess and give help where the Church fails. If only the Church had acted much earlier on with the requests of Fatima we would not have had a century of misery and literally hell on earth now.
So now for a while we receive hope by predictions that unexpectedly the Church would be given a new head, a "game changer", who would be a new light and attract the world back to the Church/placing it up on high again....give new solutions that would show the world that the Catholic Church is a part of the only solutions available when the great errors and sin of the world have culminated in complete break down of all past "reliable" human structures. Man no longer has any solution and that is recently witnessed to by the head of the Fed Reserve in America completely stymied, unable to decide what to do....lost and almost "collapsing" herself as demonstrated on Sep. 24! So, none of that has ever happened now has it??!! Ha! Why, it's the elephant in the room that everyone seems to happily be willing to still deny. Thank God JPII emphasized that reason has to go along with faith. Sharing misinformation and gossip rather than facts about things and/or persons involved about whom people should admit they know really nothing is opening up to error and lies. And Pope Francis has adamantly emphasized a number of times recently that "gossip is another form of terrorism". Amen to that!
Anonymous said "Is looking at locutions by these dubious mystics really any different than looking at your horoscope? In both cases a person wants to possess secret knowledge about the future. I thought God expects us to walk by faith."
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Well, I would just like to point out that there is a great deal more to authentic mystics, visionaries and prophets than simply prophesies concerning the future. This would be a very poor understanding of the authentic spirit of mysticism and prophecy in the Church. Without even considering the role of the great mystics of the Church and focusing specifically of prophets, is not much of the Old Testament writings based on the mission and messages of the major prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel, let alone the 12 minor prophets recognized in the Old Testament. And then there is the book of Revelation which is almost completely prophetic.
Even Jesus Himself pointed to and referred to the lives and the messages of the prophets on several occasions in the Gospels and stated that He Himself was the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophesy, stating in Luke 4: "Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."
And so, prophesies concerning the future play only a very small part of the authentic spirit of mysticism and prophecy in the Church, and have nothing to do those outside the Church who seek out astrology or other means in an attempt to discern the future.
-Glenn Dallaire
Read an article written by Fr. MOST (EWTN website)
He indicates that even CANONIZED saints in the Catholic Church who were known to be mystics had prophesies that were both on the mark and some completely wrong.
It is because "“Human action may mingle with the divine action" - influences from Satan that interfere. What happened on August 13th 1917? Our Lady told the children that she was going to appear at the Cova di Iria at a certain time like the previous months. Thousands showed up in anticipation. Thousands were disappointed.
She DIDN'T appear. Why? Human action (police) arrested the children. The children simply did as Our Lady asked. So did the locutionist. Think and reflect people!
Our Lady also said some months ago that the locutions would be taken off but it wouldn't last long. I await that moment. As predicted, Syria is back in the news...so is Russia...
Glenn, can you explain to me the difference between a modern day locutionist and a prophet in the Bible. Assume that the locutionist is absolutely authentic.
I'm confused because we believe that public revelation ended with the death of the last apostle, and that we don't need to believe any of the private relevlations...even Fatima.
To pose the question another way, how did this work in Old Testament times? Were the people at the time obliged to believe the Major and Minor prophets?
Maybe Our Lady's prediction about an economic collapse was not dramatic but, please, think about the following.
1) There has been a lot of talk about the stock market being manipulated. They say stock prices and dividends are inflated. They say printing money will bring us down.
2) The Holy Father's talks did change once he got to Philadelphia (towards the end of his trip). In NYC and Washington he was political. In Philadelphia he was pastoral.
3) On Sunday evening around 7pm I began to watch France 24, Bloomberg News and other financial shows. They were all talking about what a bad third quarter we were having and that September was worse than August. The markets been down all year.
3)The Dow closed down everyday for four days. Tuesday, September 29 it closed up about 15 points. That was easy to manipulate. Even if you think Monsignor's directee is wrong I would like the messages continue without approval.
4) Some of her insights were helpful, such as, our children's heritage has been stolen.
God Bless you,
Conservative Diva
MY FULL EXPLANATION OF THE LOCUTIONS PROPHECY (And why the Church will never Condemn the Predictions)
I decided these three quotes are the only ones to really be concerned about regarding the controversy.
1.) "This collapse will be the final warning. So that my message will be believed, it will
take place while the Pope is at the world’s financial center."
First of all what was prophesied was more a partial collapse and not a full one.
"Second, the collapse will not come out of the blue. The signs of economic difficulties have already appeared." - Mary
In the turbulent economic environment we have now only economists can say if there was an economic collapse during the Pope's visit to America
or not. The 2008 Financial
Crisis was years later revealed to be greater than the great depression. "There is no precise definition of an
economic collapse." - Wikipedia: Economic Collapse
2.) "Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the new world situation."
This is the most difficult statement. First of all Prophecy can speak in poetic ways. Toward may mean Close To in time, in the sense of
heaven which doesn't perceive time as here on earth. So it could be After the Visit.
b) Manner of the revelatory communications; Canons for the interpretation of the prophecies and their fulfilment — In the words of St. John of the Cross — and the doctors of mysticism have a special right to be heard in this matter — "God multiplies the means of transmitting these revelations; at one time he makes use of words, at another of signs, figures, images, similitudes; and again, of both words and symbols together" (The Ascent of Carmel, II, xxvii)"
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12477a.htm
An Example:
I once saw the message this was in had a title which said that Russia will be Consecrated in 2016. Then later on it the title changed to
"No Consecration of Russia in 2015". Why? Quite Obviously corrected by the spiritual director. It may appear to say that but it does not necessarily say that. It could be saying
the stirring will be in 2016.
"During 2015, my voice will grow much stronger. The urgency of my message will be seen. However, Russia will not be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart. Even so, as these events occur, a great stirring will begin in the Church which will prepare for Russia’s consecration in 2016." - Mary
3.) "I have deliberately brought the Holy Father to America so all the world will see my sign."
The sign may simply be understood at a future time.
If MSGR. JOHN ESSEFF is not with the Locutions, then he would have had his lawyers take this message down.
"Your locutions are a big voice because of Monsignor Esseff and the stature that I have given to him. Early in his priesthood, I sent him a little girl with heavenly messages.
Then I led him to Padre Pio and later, to Mother Theresa. He has held worldwide positions and is known everywhere. People cannot ignore the light that has his name attached."
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dj8pG6cLXJIJ:locutions.org/2014/06/11-the-voice-of-light/+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=bs
Lets cut to the chase here and be direct:
The "Mary" of the prophesy took a gamble and lost. This is all very simple. The Sept 3 prophesy was a direct message supposedly from the Virgin Mary. The predictions were a complete failure. Mary does not speak in riddles with hidden meanings that need to somehow be deciphered. "Mary" made specific an very direct predictions for the time of the Pope's visit, and none of them actually happened. The economy did not crash and the pope did not need to address some new world situation.
Whoever it was that actually made the prophesy, be it the locutionist herself, or a demon posing as Mary, took a gamble with a specific prediction, and they lost the gamble. Had the economy even took a relatively significant nosedive like it did in August before this prediction, the prophesy would have been seen by many as being fulfilled, and it would have been a huge "direct hit" for this locutionist, and "Locutions to the World" would have been a sudden sensation. But God wasn't playing that game, the prediction gamble proved to be a complete failure, so now the locutionist is recognized by every reasonable person as being a complete fraud. And this is the way it should be, because the truth should always prevail.
So, to those who are trying to somehow twist this complete failure of a prophesy into a win, please stop trying to turn "Mary's" very specific and straightforward prediction into some kind of complex riddle or prophetic puzzle that must be unpacked and unraveled. The Virgin Mary is does not speak using puzzlers and hidden meanings. Stop trying to put a square peg into a round hole. Its not gonna work.
The Locutions.org website was shutdown the day after the Pope left America, and this is as it should be, because even the locutionist herself knows the prophesy was a complete failure, as has rightly accepted it. Hopefully for their own good those here in denial will soon accept the failed prophesy and use it as a learning experience.
There were also other prophecies regarding Fall 2015 and the Economic collapse published months before. They also shed light on what's happening. So those who read only the recent messages don't have the whole picture.
What value is there in other predictions from this "Mary" when a specific and straightforward prediction of hers on Sept 3 turns out to be a complete and utter fail?
So if she gets say one out of 3 correct you are then happy and satisfied? And you believe that these odds come from heaven?
So if we dig up some of her old messages and find a few accurate ones we are good then? I can only assume from this that your expectations of God and Mary are not that high. I hope that you do realize that most anyone can make accurate predictions some of the time, and the demons even more so due to their superior intelligence. Yet, whoever this "Mary" was that made this prophesy about the collapse of the economy, and the pope addressing the new world situation, took a prediction gamble and lost.
CRASH vs. COLLAPSE
Anonymmous said: "What value is there in other predictions from this "Mary" when a specific and straightforward prediction of hers on Sept 3 turns out to be a complete and utter fail?"
First of all many critics do not appear to understand prophecy. That it can use poetic language. That if a prediction is given it can simply change and that predictions are Usually more like warnings. (However, this Pope Collapse prophecy is different.)
Prophecy is not necessarily a Sign. A sign gives proof of things, not necessarily so for prophecy. Prophecy is not a show, but a sign is.
Second the critics do not really even know what a economic collapse is. What did they expect to happen? The regular definition of an economic collapse is something that lasts for months and years. The Pope wasn't there or that long. Maybe they were thinking of a CRASH instead of a COLLAPSE.
"There is no precise definition of an economic collapse." - Wikipedia: Economic Collapse
"The full extent of the collapse will not be realized at first. Like a flood that claims more and more of the dry ground, people will think that they are safe from its effects. Then, they realize that the flood claims them and their homes." - Mary, Locutions.org
- Juan
You should stop arguing about all this. Focus on your prayer and devotion to God otherwise you will not see him pass right at your eyes or knock at your doors. This discussion was very good at the beginning but everything was said. Move on.
One of the most important criteria used by the Church on Marian Apparitions is "if she talks too much, she is not Our Lady". Mother Mary kept all the things in her heart. In fact, my favourite apparition is Madonna del Miracolo and the conversion of Alphonse Ratisbonne. Beautiful, merciful, silent.
Thank you, Glenn. You made an excellent point. False visionaries & prophets cause harm to other possible authentic visionaries and mystics. It can cause some to no longer believe in even church approved visionaries.
However, I was taught many years ago that if one believes in an alleged visionary and that visionary is not under condemnation, those that believe will obtain grace for believing.
God bless you.
ECONOMIC ANALYSTS ANNOUNCE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
"Opinion: Get ready for a ‘destruction of wealth’ as stocks head toward a bear market"
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/get-ready-for-a-destruction-of-wealth-as-stocks-head-toward-a-bear-market-2015-10-01
- Juan
Too much emphasis on instant gratification of a stock market crash revealing an economic collapse. What if the stock market tanks bigtime between now and the end of the year. That is 2015 which LTTW states is the year of the economic collapse.
Who met at this time. Obama met the Chinese President last week and met Putin on Monday. Did they cook up something for us all ? Obama is supposed to be caught up in a scandal says LTTW and his supporters will abandon him. This has yet to happen.
In 2012 LTTW stated that in the following year I will raise up a man in the highest office (I don't have the exact quote the messages were taken down). Highest office is the pope. Prophecy came true. will stocks crash the rest of the year? Could be another prophecy comes true. "Do not be supprised if these locutions seem to be totally discredited" Another prophecy comes true. Another said more than once that these locutions will continue and that they will not be stopped. This indicates that LTTW will come back. You can't stop God and His mother. We'll see.
As for Fr. Gobbi, His opinion is that the meaning of "by the year 1998, you will see the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.: has to do with the meaning of "by" in Italian it is "per" which can mean a means. As in, I went to NYC by car. What happened in 1998 was the jubulee period proclaimed by JPII. This obtained Grace for the truiumph. Also, Fr. Gobbi was invited 25 years in a row to concelebrate Midnight Mass in JPII's private chapel. This is a tacit approval of Fr. Gobbi's locutions. Fr. Gobbi's locutions also stated 4 times post '84 consecration of the world (not Russia), that the consecration of Russia has not been done. Russia is bombing Syria as I write.
Amen.
This article gives an interesting perspective on economic events in September:
http://www.infowars.com/this-is-for-the-nothing-is-happening-crowd/
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Anonymous said...
Glenn, can you explain to me the difference between a modern day locutionist and a prophet in the Bible. Assume that the locutionist is absolutely authentic.
I'm confused because we believe that public revelation ended with the death of the last apostle, and that we don't need to believe any of the private relevlations...even Fatima.
To pose the question another way, how did this work in Old Testament times? Were the people at the time obliged to believe the Major and Minor prophets?
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Sorry I am delayed in replying to your question. I have been tied up in other matters. You a very right that public revelation ended with the death of the last apostle, and that we don't need to believe any private revelations---even those that are Church recognized like Fatima or Lourdes for example (but I will add that to disbelieve in private revelations such as Lourdes or Fatima would be quite foolish, but this is just my opinion).
The point is, while public revelation has ended, private revelation is ongoing. Yet, no one is ever required to believe in any private revelation coming from visionaries/mystics/prophets. At the same time however, the Church recognizes that God ALWAYS warns and announces ahead of time significant events that will occur for humanity----and the reason for this is that these prophetic warnings are "road signs" that tell us (the people of God) what is coming up ahead, so when it happens we will then realize that God is in charge, and that He is directing things according to His will. And people who have ears to hear ought to give a just hearing and consideration to those purport to be messengers and emissaries of God.
So, God announces ahead of time through the prophets the significant events that are to come upon the world. This is why, for example, that John the Baptist was sent right before the time of Jesus---he was to announce and herald Jesus' coming, so that the Israelite would recognize the Messiah. And this is precisely why one would be very foolish to ignore or discount the important role that the authentic spirit of prophecy and mysticism play in the Church.
At the same time, Scripture warns us not to despise prophesy, but to carefully and cautiously discern it, and it also warns us to beware of false prophets. So there must be a careful balance between having an open mind towards prophesy, yet at the same time being cautious and careful. And Scripture also tells us that when a purported prophet makes a false prediction, then "that prophet has spoken it presumptuously", meaning they spoke outside of what they were told by God. These, I believe, are all things to consider when it comes to discerning private revelations.
I hope this helps to answer your question.
May God bless you and your loved ones,
Glenn Dallaire
Here is the information I got from the Diocese of Scranton:
1. The locutions are not happening in the Diocese of Scranton. The anonymous alleged locutionist does not live in this Diocese.
2. Monsignor John Esseff did not edit these locutions nor where they published with his consent or cooperation in any way. He is and has been a spiritual director to persons who claim to have received locutions, but he has not in any way promoted or validated the content of those locutions. On August 27, 2014, he sent a formal notice to the publisher to have his name removed from the edited version and the website.
With these circumstances in mind, the Bishop of Scranton is not the competent bishop to investigate this matter or to make any claim as to the truthfulness of these alleged locutions. I ask your prayers for clarity for all involved in this particular matter.
Peace and Joy!
Glenn, are you a qualified, trained and recognised theologian I.e. Do you have a PhD in theology, teach at university, do quality theological research and publish scholarly works?
Anonymous said...
Glenn, are you a qualified, trained and recognised theologian I.e. Do you have a PhD in theology, teach at university, do quality theological research and publish scholarly works?
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I will gladly answer your question, but kindly please reply to this one first:
Which one's of the 12 apostles were trained theologians of their time? -That is, which ones were either Scribes, Pharisees, Sadducee's, Levite's or even rabbi's?
I do recall elements of the locutions specifically stating Shifting of events. confusion with which whom no one knows which side they are on and the Crash will not be by divine intervention but mans own shortcomings. (in a manner of speaking) ... well many things overshadowed by the Popes presence in the US occurred and went virtually unnoticed in the media
>>>>> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/this-is-for-the-nothing-is-happening-crowd <<<<<
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I don't quite understand your response Glenn. I was asking an innocent question. Are you are trained theologian who publishes scholarly work? If so I would be interested in reading it. Your reply seems to be defensive in some way, but unnecessarily so. It is also an unanswerable question as research indicates we do not know the occupations of all of the original twelve apostles, only of some. Certainly some were obviously well educated. The apostle who was a theologian and a brilliant and inspired one whom God used mightily in the Church was of course St Paul. There was no need to get defensive. I did not appreciate your response. It was aggressive and almost rude.
Hi Anonymous,
Thanks for your response. Concerning my reply, which I will point out was simply just a question, you may already know this but please understand that those who host blogs or websites with "comment" sections are often besieged in the comments and in emails with people who are commonly referred to as "trolls" (not my term but is simply common parlance in the internet world), and often their sole purpose and intention is to incite opposition and dissent because apparently they get some kind of disordered enjoyment out of doing so. With this in mind, I simply point this out because your question, posted as "Anonymous", along with the question itself could certainly be construed as being a loaded question that a internet "troll" would use to set a trap. So, sorry if such was not your intention.
Anyway, to reply to your question, no, I do not have a PhD in Theology nor do I teach at a University. The "Who I am and the origins of this website" link on the right hand side column of this website gives my entire background, and I would add that most all of the articles shown on the right column would, in fact, amount to my credentials in what concerns mystical theology.
May God bless you and your loved ones,
Glenn Dallaire
There was a remark by Pope Francis recently where he was talking about the basic mysteries of the Church and the confusion of today and said something like "don't rely on theologians for some final answer or you'll be waiting forever since they hardly ever agree in their many theories"....paraphrasing.
And in a talk to theologians:
Francis: Theologians should smell like the sheep, too
....Pope Francis has called on Catholic theologians not to simply practice an academic exercise of studying at their desks, but to
take their work to the frontiers to "pour oil and wine over the wounds of humankind."
Writing in a letter last week to the theological faculty of the Pontifical Catholic University of Argentina, the pope also adapted a favorite phrase he has used to describe the type of Catholic bishops he wants, calling on theologians to "smell of the people and of the road."
...."We must guard ourselves against a theology that is exhausted in the academic dispute or watching humanity from a glass castle," the pope says. "You learn it to live: theology and holiness are an inseparable pair."
"Do not settle for a theology of the desk," he continues. "Your place for reflection are the boundaries."
...."The good theologians, like the good shepherds, smell of the people and of the road and, with their reflection, pour oil and wine on the wounds of humankind."
.....A theologian is "not an intellectual without talent, an ethicist without kindness or a bureaucrat of the sacred."
Forget Honors and Credentials as if being educated makes one truly spiritual. How many people with opinions have truly prayed for Discernment? How many Rosaries have they said? The Stock Market is tanking just recently!
"These weeks are filled with my greatest favors, especially for those who understand and believe. Do not omit your rosary. In those moments I will come,meet you and give you light." - Mary, 'Cana - The First Sign' Locutions.org
- Juan
CREDIT SUISSE: COLLAPSE STARTED THIS WEEK
Markets are back at panic levels, says Credit Suisse
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/markets-are-back-at-panic-levels-says-credit-suisse-2015-10-02
- Juan
CREDIT SUISSE: COLLAPSE STARTED THIS WEEK, LOCUTION PROPHECY CAME TRUE
It was a Collapse of Confidence. I think there may be a locution on that as well.
"The collapse will not come before Pope Francis comes to America but it will happen while he is in America. I deliberately brought the Pope to America, the world’s financial center, to be here when it takes place. I want him to be part of the picture. I want him to be present." - Mary, Locutions.org
"During this week, global risk appetite dropped to “panic” levels for the first time since January 2012, according to Credit Suisse’s Global Risk Appetite Index. That was back when investors feared a breakup of the euro bloc, grappled with unsustainably high sovereign borrowing costs and freaking out about the spillover from Greece.
Before that, the index reached panic state around the onset of the 2008 financial crisis, after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the U.S., during the dotcom bubble and after Black Monday in 1987. Get the picture?"
- Juan
CREDIT SUISSE: COLLAPSE OF CONFIDENCE STARTED THIS WEEK
Markets are back at panic levels, says Credit Suisse
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/markets-are-back-at-panic-levels-says-credit-suisse-2015-10-02
Nov. 2, 2014: LOSS OF CONFIDENCE
Mary
I will not hold back any of my sorrows, because I see the afflictions that will soon come upon the face of the world. Mankind plunges ahead, totally unaware of the path it has chosen.
For decades, countries have lived beyond their means with an ever expanding use of credit.
The money supply has increased to feed the appetites, but with no foundation in reality. All is based upon a false confidence that this will just continue and that life will not be
interrupted. The system is weak and as the money flows, leaks will appear. Nothing will be
done and the leaks will be papered over – yes papered over by false money, guaranteed by
absolutely nothing.
All of this can only go on for a limited time. Inevitably, somewhere the gigantic leak happens and the false confidence in the economic system is destroyed. As the system collapses, everything comes to a halt and efforts to revive the economy are of no avail.
Many see this scenario on the horizon, but, they have no answers because governments
cannot respond politically to what is needed. This is the present road of mankind and no
one can tell when or where the collapse will take place.
The collapse will inevitably come but if a person, a family, a community, even a nation
accepts my gifts they will survive. It is not the wealthy who will survive nor those who hold power. Only the man of faith, the family of faith, the community or nation of faith will make the long term commitment needed to ride out the storm.
Comment: Our Lady continues to speak of the difficulties present in our economic system.
I REST MY CASE (ON THE COLLAPSE PART)
LOCUTIONS IDENTIFY LOSS OF CONFIDENCE AS ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
Nov. 2, 2014: LOSS OF CONFIDENCE
"Inevitably, somewhere the gigantic leak happens and the false confidence in the economic system is destroyed. As the system collapses, everything comes to a halt and efforts to revive the economy are of no avail." - Mary
The Gigantic Leak is China.
Nov. 3, 2014: The Steps to Collapse
"The events will begin with a jolt, a partial collapse from economic difficulties in one part of the world. All will view this with alarm but no one will see this as the beginning of a series of events." - Mary
- Juan
Correction: LOCUTIONS IDENTIFY LOSS OF CONFIDENCE AS CATAYLYST OF ECONOMIC COLLAPSE
- Juan
Only True Juan.... Economies Share Markets have Plummeted and its simply no Joke.. Not much of the Media at this point in time is not making a major highlight of it.. however this is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9Xxeihds4&feature=youtu.be
Juan, It's obvious you still believe in this locutionist but you repeating yourself.
And to Anonymous who said: " Only True Juan.... Economies Share Markets have Plummeted and its simply no Joke.. Not much of the Media at this point in time is not making a major highlight of it..."
This locutionist predicted a collapse of such magnitude that the Pope would need to change his message to address it. So you think there was a collapse that fulfilled this prediction, but the problem is nobody knows about this collapse because the Media did not highlight it. Do you also think that the Pope changed his message to address the collapse that the Media also failed to report?
But you can't have your cake and eat it too...didn't the locutionist say after the Pope left that Satan prevented the collapse? So which is it? Was there a collapse and the locutionist was wrong about Satan preventing it? Or was there no collapse and the locutionist was wrong in her original prediction?
BTW, the DJIA is up 200 points today so if there was a collapse nobody told Wall Street.
I think I figured out what happened. There really was an economic collapse but nobody saw it, not even the Blessed Mother, because the Media didn't highlight it. The Media also didn't highlight the fact that the Pope changed his message at the end of his trip to talk about the collapse. And because the Blessed Mother was unaware of the collapse after the Pope left she said that Satan prevented the collpase. But Satan pulled a fast one...he didn't prevent the collapse because the collapse really happened. And the Pope really talked about the collapse. What Satan did was prevent the Media from telling us and the Blessed Mother about the collapse, and he prevented the Media from reporting about the Pope talking about the collapse. So this made it look as if the Blessed Mother's prediction was wrong when it was really correct. I trust this settles the debate.
lets see what happens to the stock market for the rest of the year. I think it will show a staggaring collapse and it started right about the time the pope came to the USA. About the pope changing his comments right before he leaves; I don't think that happened. Do locutionist and prophets have to be correct 100% of the time. I believe Catholic theology says no. Why demand a batting average of 1000? If your faith needs that thru human reasning than that's not really faith but merely a human trying to imitate a computer.
But you can't have your cake and eat it too...didn't the locutionist say after the Pope left that Satan prevented the collapse? -
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Where did that straw man come from? The last public message was dated 9/24/15. It seems that comment discussion groups often turn to "sharing misinformation"!
To benjoyce, you don't need to be a locutionist to know there will be a market correction. That's the way the stock market works, two steps forward and one step back. Folks on this website are painting a very poor picture of the Catholic faith. We look like a bunch of superstitious mystic chasers hiding in our bunkers with cases of beans and our guns waiting for the black helicopters. How can any Protestant reading these comments find the Catholic religion attractive is beyond me.
Mary said originally (around Sept. 3rd) that the collapse was the fault of man, not God or Satan... Now in the most recent messages (Sept 24th, specifically) she is saying that Satan is the one who is causing it? Can the blessed Mother contradict herself and the vision still be considered legitimate? Does anyone actually read the messages side by side, or do they just read out of context highlights to justify themselves?
Just curious.
Um, so where is the mention of Satan here? So much misinformation spread.
A NEW SPRING IN THE DESERT
6) September 24, 2015
Mary
Will I be silent now? Should I put away this little instrument that has helped so many? Shall I set it aside, as if I can discard what is so close to my heart? Troubles and problems, wars and uprising, blessings and favors –about all of these I have spoken for so many years until many have come to listen with believing hearts.
No, I will not be silent. Instead, my voice shall pierce heaven’s secrets and the thoughts of my heart, held back until now, will begin to flow.
Come, a new era is beginning. I am about to bring forth a moment which I have always promised. A spring will rise in the desert from a little known place, (like a new Bethlehem). This gift is about to unfold, quickly, by surprising events within the Church.
There will be two series of events, one series in the world and the other in the Church. The first will lead to the second. A new openness will fill the Church. From now on, heaven itself will control the Church. The Church will set aside any worldly thinking, any compromise with worldly methods(even those that seemingly advance the gospel). The Church will walk only on heaven’s road because no other road will lead to my Immaculate Heart. In this heart, I hold the whole world with all its history, the whole Church, with all its saints and the King of Kings Himself. Let me open this door,today. Once I have opened the door, no one will close it.
You are right. I misspoke. It's the 23rd, not the 24th.
"WHOSE MOMENT IS THIS?
23) September 23, 2015
Mary
The time is opportune. All eyes are fixed upon Pope Francis. Other concerns are set aside for this moment. This is my moment. As the forces of evil crash in upon the world events, all will see what my words have described. These events come from hell’s infernal powers and from fires that mankind has allowed to burn freely. Years ago, I spoke of the fires of Syria, that they would not be extinguished and would overflow, totally disrupting the Middle East. All of this has taken place.
Now, I return to the other infernal fire, burning strongly beneath the surface, the infernal fire of economic weaknesses that have proliferated. This, too, waits only for Satan’s pernicious moment, when he turns the world’s attention to himself and to his plans of destruction.
This is too tempting for Satan. He, foolishly, moves up his timetable, when really he should wait a while longer. He will not allow Pope Francis to have the world stage all to himself. Satan will want to crash the party, reveal his powers and announce his presence.
O foolish Satan, you do not know how the Almighty God is using you to bring about His plan. This only seems to be your moment, when really this is my moment. I need say no more."
BUT ON SEPT 3rd, Our Lady (supposedly) said:
"God is not the cause of this collapse and the collapse is not a divine chastisement. The collapse comes because of man's free will and the choices he has made. The collapse has no purpose."
So it went from being of human origin and having no purpose to a tool to get us to focus on Satan instead of the Pope. Hmmmmmm.
Also, at the end of Sept. 3rd PLEASE NOTE AS OTHERS HAVE IGNORED:
"All these good an evil forces, papacy, economic collapse and NUCLEAR WAR, will be merged together in a single unforgettable event, as they all come together in September, 2015."
You can talk around Pope Francis "changing his message," you can argue the collapse has begun but won't be realized til later, but there was no event in September merging a collapse, the Pope's trip and NUCLEAR WAR.
Stop deluding yourselves. This locutionist is either a fake, or the person they are hearing is not of God.
Locutions are back up
yes there was . sept was is the month that the notorius Iran treaty was supposed to be passed by congress. this would allow Iran to get the bomb and use it
where are they "back up" ? what website?
Demanding "timely" response from God isn't going to work. It appears that a great many were looking for a stock market crash. It didn't happen (yet). At Fatima, the BVM said WWII would start after a sign. The sign was a type of Northern lights on Jan 24th and 25th 1938. Did WWII start the next day? no Did everyone flip out and protest? No. WWII didn't "start" for another 18 months. Behind the scenes Hitler took control of the military in Germany that week or day. 6 weeks later was the Anchluss (can't spell it) anexation of Aust/hungary
What happened when the pope was here? Obama met with the Chinese president and on Monday, the day after the pope left, Obama met with Putin. I wonder if our dear president cooked something up for us?
I'm still leaving locutions to the world on my website www.catholicprophecy.net until I'm satisfied that Loc.org is a dud
What is wrong with you people. The LTTW locutions are true. The crash DID happen while the Pope was in New York and the Pope DID change his message. However the devil has fooled us into thinking the crash didn't happen. He did this by artificially driving up the DJIA. And when everyone thought the Pope was speaking about global warming at the end of the trip he was really speaking about the economic crash. What the devil did was confuse his translator.
I'm interested what did the Pope say showing that he changed his address and addressed the economy?
thanks Ben
It didn't say the Pope would address the economy but the world situation. An email I received from a list put it this way:
Pope Francis and the Family and the Holy Spirit
September 26 & 27, 2015
In his Spirit-filled trip to the United States last week, and after he dealt with the political and moral aspects of his message, both in the White House and US Congress, as well as at the United Nations, Pope Francis settled in on the most important part of his message, The Family:
“…God came into the world in a family…. The passport that a family has is issued it by God, so that within its heart, truth, love and beauty would grow more and more….The family is a factory of hope, of hope of life and of resurrection…
“…I advise one thing: Never end the day without making peace in the family….Let us defend the family, because there our future is in play….”
And from someone whose gift for discernment is sought out by some well known priests... he emphasizes what people seem to have missed within a noted change relayed in the Message of Sept. 20:
It is not good to delay any more. Constantly the timetable has been pushed back. The reckoning has been delayed by the clever scheming of those who do not want the truth to come to light. (economic powers, as in the Fed....Janet Yellen's struggles to hide the now collapsed structures...in her 2nd Sept. speech on the 24th which was suddenly cut short due to her own strange, almost collapse, showing they have no real solutions now; only attempts at superficial manipulation).
and from comments on this story: Indeed she is starting to crack from all the lies. ... and ..... The lies are killing her. Just tell the truth Yellen, the Ponzi is quickly drawing to it's inevitable conclusion. No length of ZIRP or amount of money printed is going to change a thing.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/watch-yellen-stumbles-toward-end-of-speech-at-amherst-2015-09-25
LTTW message of Sep. 24th: From now on, heaven itself will control the Church.
Latest message from "Our Lady of Light" to Ned Dougherty, Oct. 2: I, as Your Mother, I am the other Pillar of the Church of My Son in these End Times. I ask of you your powerful prayers in my name to Your Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, for He is now the Captain of the Vessel of the Church
Time has passed and one can readily see that the reality of the events of the Pope's visit in America did not at all correspond to the predictions in the recent messages of who was purported as the Virgin Mary, as given through Locutions to the World, revealing the complete falsity of these recent prophesies of LTTW.
The Locutions.org website rightly shutdown on Monday, Sept 28, 2015, the day after the Pope left America. I think it is time now to turn the page on these alleged messages from "Mary". With this in mind, I am closing the comments here with a few paragraphs from a recent post by Charlie Johnston, which I think very succinctly closes the book and the story of Locutions to the World:
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"It is time to get serious, friends.
When LttW imploded, I thought the Lord was giving many the chance to see what I had been taught mostly privately over decades. There is no shame in being deceived – particularly if the deceiver is likely sincere but errant rather than malicious. There IS shame in not stepping back and learning from the error rather than just continuing on the same path that led you to be deceived in the first place. LttW was perfect for this lesson. Though I may be wrong, I saw no intent to deceive – just someone who was deceived promulgating messages to people eager to hear them. This gave those outside the inner circle of the failed locutionist an opportunity to be both magnanimous and learn to adjust their own expectations so as to discern better.
Always, I objected to the tone the locutionist assigned to Mary. Our Lady never speaks in a bitter, hectoring tone. I do…people I know do. We little folks here have a hard time avoiding that entirely. But Our Lady is full of grace. She wants all her children home again – and she wants those of us who honor her to help her bring those children back to her Holy Son – not merely to denounce those children. Lesson: If a locutionist reports that Our Lady speaks in bitter, hectoring tones of denunciation, it is not Our Lady speaking.
It particularly irked me that at LttW Our Lady and Our Lord were constantly reduced to the role of play-by-play announcer and color commentator at a sporting event. I have said repeatedly that it is not God’s will that we know all the details of what is happening or will happen or focus on them. Rather, it is His will that we hold fast to Him and help His children do the same, that all might be rescued. Lesson: It is not God’s will that you occupy yourself trying to figure out exactly what is going to happen and when. That does not avail. Rather, He intends that you learn how to act according to His Will whatever happens.
Astonishingly, some people continued, after the deception was revealed, to relentlessly try to explain why that square peg really did fit in that round hole. Don’t you know that God allowed this both so the locutionist would learn and repent – and so that many would see how deeply flawed their own expectations are? If you continue with the same expectations, you will get the same results. Judge righteous judgment. Some, disappointed in LttW, are already restlessly trying to find a replacement to give them the regular play-by-play and color commentary, instead of examining their own flawed expectations. I have heard from several this week, hoping I will pick up the mantle of error so they can get their weekly fix, asking me about Russia, the hurricanes, and the Oregon shootings."....
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For those interested, the full article can be read here.
In closing, I pray that Jesus and Mary may enlighten us all to the lessons that can be learned through these events, and may Jesus and Mary lead all of us ever deeper into their Two Hearts.
-Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy upon us! Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us!
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