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| Storm clouds develop over protestors |
“When you see clouds building in the west, you say at once, ‘A storm shower is coming’; and so it happens. And when you see the south wind blowing, you say, ‘It's going to be hot’ and so it is. So why is it then that you cannot read the signs of the times?" Luke 12:54-56
June 2020. Last updated Oct 9, 2020. By: Glenn Dallaire
The "Signs of the Times"
The prophetic world seems on fire lately. Prophets and prophecies abound in Catholic circles, and in the greater christian community as a whole. In the spiritual realm, due to a malevolent virus we have all experienced closed Churches, with the inability for most of the Catholics in the world to be able to receive Jesus in Holy Communion, and even the ability to have one's sins forgiven in Confession has also been prevented in many areas throughout the world up to this point. Thankfully, summer in the Northern Hemisphere seems to be bringing with it a bit of a reprieve from this malevolent virus. And make no mistake--this virus is malevolent and evil at its source. But this is a subject for another time.
Out on the streets of America and in many other countries we have had fervent protests with quite a bit of lawlessness in many areas. Many business and even some Churches have been vandalized, looted or set aflame, not to mention the toppling of numerous statues and monuments dedicated to various persons once admired and respected.
Many persons have commented lately that the world really seems to have gone mad. There is seemingly so much division and divisiveness, and we all know who the author and formentor of division is. To this writer it all calls to mind the Scripture quote at the top of this article concerning reading the signs of the times: "When you see clouds building in the west you say at once, ‘A storm shower is coming’; and so it happens."
Do not the storm clouds really seem to be building upon humanity in these times? What, if anything can we gather from the current signs of the times?
“For the Lord GOD does nothing without first revealing his secret to his servants, the prophets" -Amos 3:7
As we can see, Scripture states that nothing significant happens to humanity without God first announcing it first through the prophets. So what are the purported prophets of our time saying? Could we be on the precipice of something significant happening in the world?
Thankfully in this vein we have a wonderful collaboration of four persons who have recently put together a noteworthy website entitled "Countdown To The Kingdom" (www.countdowntothekingdom.com) wherein some messages from purported visionaries and prophets of our time have been highlighted.
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| Father Michel Rodrigue (Queen of Peace Media, YouTube) |
Along with being a founder of a religious Fraternity, Fr. Michel Rodrigue claims to receive heavenly visions and messages, and in addition he has also been appointed as an exorcist, and his experiences in this area has given him some very interesting perspectives on the spiritual battles that we all endure.
The Blessed Virgin Mary Herself has reportedly named Fr. Michel “Apostle of the End Times.” A good deal of information concerning him can be read on the aforementioned website, along with a number of video retreats that he has made which are published here on Youtube
We report, you discern
Fr. Michel is a priest in good standing with the Church, and as of the time of this writing his private revelations have not been condemned. His former bishop, however, does not personally believe in his messages, nor does he believe in the Warning, the Chastisements, the Three Days of Darkness, the Era Peace, and other prophesies. His current bishop is of the same personal opinion. See the letters from Bishop Bourgon and Bishop Lemay at the bottom of this article. For Fr. Michel's part, he has reportedly sought to be obedient to his bishop and his directives.
With that said, for the purposes of this article let us now highlight some of Fr. Michel Rodrigue's purported prophecies concerning the Purification/Warning and what he foresees will soon be occurring for humanity.
In a letter to his supporters dated March 26, 2020 Fr. Michel writes the following:
"My dear people of God, we are now passing a test. The great events of purification will begin this fall. Be ready with the Rosary to disarm Satan and to protect our people. Make sure that you are in the state of grace by having made your general confession to a Catholic priest. The spiritual battle will begin.
Remember these words: THE MONTH OF THE ROSARY WILL SEE GREAT THINGS!"
-Dom Michel Rodrigue, fabl
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In another letter to his supporters dated March 24, 2020 Fr. Michel writes the following:
"....After this period of compulsory confinement [due to virus outbreak -editor], life will resume its course. The summer period will open a window of time where we will be able to prepare well for the coming test … that of being with Jesus on the Cross. We cannot see the Glorious Cross without encountering the cross with Jesus.
"You must now consecrate your house or apartment to the Eternal Father through the Sacred Heart of Jesus and Mary if you have not done so. We must regularly bless our places, our homes, with exorcised holy water. During this summer, you need to prepare a food supply for a period of three months, with drinking water, too. You will need to have made your general confession before fall. The prayer of the Holy Rosary, of Saint Michael the Archangel, and that of your guardian angels will be your comfort, your strength, your protection."
Economic collapse, Revolution, Martial law and World War III?
Along with a global 'Purification' that Fr. Rodrigue says will begin this Fall 2020, he also foresees the following:
"...There will be famine. Jesus presented this to me just recently. I was in my room, and when I sat down, preparing to go to bed, I saw a black cavalier coming. This means famine. I heard, “They will have money, but they will have no bread,” which means that you can have money to buy it, but you will find nothing.
"Then all money will crash, so it is good to give your money away now, as it will disappear. There will be a great uprising. You will see revolution in your streets. People will fight each other openly. The government will have no other choice than to institute martial law. At the same time that martial law begins, so will the war.
And here is more on the "war" that Fr. Michel was purportedly shown:
"He [the devil -editor] will start a nuclear war that will be global—the third world war—his war against all of humanity. The devil will kill one third of humanity in this war, and through plagues and abortion, just as one third of the angels were cast out of heaven into hell. Seven nuclear missiles will be permitted to strike the United States as a result of its abominations. Many nuclear missiles will be deflected by the Hand of God because America prays the Divine Mercy Chaplet. I was told this by the Eternal Father.
"...And I know that the war will come from two countries: One is Korea and the other is Iran. They will come together to face the United States of America."
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| Father Michel Rodrigue, 2020 (YouTube, Queen of Peace Media) |
And elsewhere he states:
"The times are urgent. The Tribulation will come, and it will be soon. We are in a time of emergency. When the Father gave me the fraternity, He asked me to build it quickly because it will be a refuge for many priests who will come there. Much of what you will witness will be orchestrated by the devil. You will see people fighting against each other for a political reasons. The persecution of Christians, which has already begun, person to person through ridicule and accusation, will come from laws that are lawlessness. You will not be able to follow these laws in good conscience, so persecution will then fall under civil authority."
The world wide Warning/Illumination of conscience
The following is some of Fr. Michel Rodrigue's explanations concerning the Warning:
".....Then the Warning will come. I saw this. The stars, the sun, and the moon will not shine. All will be black. Suddenly in the heavens, a sign of Jesus will appear and light up the sky and the world. He will be on the Cross, not in His suffering, but in His glory. Behind Him in a pale light, we will appear the face of the Father, the True God. It will be something, I assure you.
From the wounds in Jesus’ hands, feet, and side, bright rays of love and mercy will fall onto the entire Earth, and everything will stop. If you are in an airplane, it will stop. If you are riding in a car, don’t worry—the car will stop. If you ask me, “How can that be?” I will say, “God is God. He is the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and Earth. If He put Fr. Michel out in there the universe, like a piece of dust, do you think He cannot stop matter? Do you believe that your small airplane will bother Him? No. This is what God told me; but He has also told such things to others, like at Garabandal, which St. Padre Pio believed in.
Everything will be fixed in time, and the flame of the Holy Spirit will enlighten every conscience on Earth. The shining rays from Jesus’ wounds will pierce every heart, like tongues of fire, and we will see ourselves as if in a mirror in front of us. We will see our souls, how precious they are to the Father, and the evil within each person will be revealed to us. It will be one of the greatest signs given to the world since the Resurrection of Jesus Christ."
Elsewhere Fr. Michel has stated:
"After the Warning, no one left on Earth will be able to say that God does not exist. When the Warning comes, everyone will recognize Christ, and they will also recognize His Body, and the body of Christ is the Catholic Church.
"...After the illumination of conscience, humanity will be granted an unparalleled gift: a period of repentance lasting about six and a half weeks when the devil will not have the power to act. This means all human beings will have their complete free will to make a decision for or against the Lord.
"...When the devil returns after six and a half weeks, he will disseminate a message to the world through the media, cell phones, TV’s, et cetera. The message is this: A collective illusion happened on this date. Our scientists have analyzed this and found it occurred at the same time that a solar flare from the sun was released into the universe. It was so powerful that it affected the minds of the people on Earth, giving everyone a collective illusion.
"The devil fools us even now through the new priests of the world: television journalists who want you to think what they think, so they present only the news that is their opinion. They twist the truth and you are hypnotized, manipulated into believing them."
A time of Refuges
Fr. Michel also speaks of a time after the Warning\Illumination of conscience where those who repent of their sins and have chosen God will be led to "Refuges", which are special places throughout the world that are set aside by God, and have been created by people who were called to do so beforehand, somewhat like Noah and the Ark for example--an we are in times like that of the great Flood, where sadly much of the world is corrupted by sin.
"....After the six and half weeks following the Warning, when the devil’s influence returns, you will see a little flame in front of you, if you are called to go to a refuge. This will be your guardian angel who shows this flame to you. And your guardian angel will advise you and guide you. In front of your eyes, you will see a flame that will guide you where to go. Follow this flame of love. He will conduct you to a refuge from the Father.
"If your home is a refuge, he will guide you by this flame through your home. If you must move to another place, he will guide you along the road that leads there. Whether your refuge will be a permanent one, or a temporary one before moving to a bigger one, will be for the Father to decide. The Father told me that a permanent refuge will have a well. This is important. That will be the sign that it is a permanent refuge.
"All of the refuges will be connected together. People in each refuge will be chosen as messengers. They will be declared in each refuge with this gift. They will be taken by the Holy Spirit to go and help, connecting with other refuges so that people will know what is happening everywhere. If you are in need, the messengers will know what to do. They will be like Philip in the Acts of the Apostles. You remember in the Bible when Philip, the apostle, went to the eunuch and baptized him, and immediately afterward, the Holy Spirit took Philip away and put him in another place? It will be exactly the same. So we will need no phones, nothing like that. Communication will be in the way of the Holy Spirit."
"The Father told me that when people enter a refuge, many will be healed of major illnesses so as to not be a burden to others. You will still suffer from normal aches and pains because you are human and not in heaven yet, just in a refuge. Everyone will be there willingly, knowing that the blessing of the Lord is upon them.
For three and half years, you will be in your refuge or in your home consecrated as a refuge, but you will not be sad not to go out. You will be happy to be there because of what you will see is happening outside."
Father Michel Rodrigue has also spoke of other matters, which space does not permit here. Those interested can read more at the 'Virtual retreat' here and/or watch his retreats on YouTube.
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| Conchita Gonzalez of Garabandal in 2019 |
Once again I would like to reiterate that this article is published under the category of "We report, you discern". This writer makes no claims for or against Fr. Michel Rodrigue's private revelations. It can be noted in the quote above the Fr. Michel mentions Garabandal and that much of what he has stated concerning the predicted world wide Warning closely corresponds to what was purportedly revealed by the Blessed Virgin Mary to the visionary Conchita Gonzalez in Garabandal in the early 1960's (one of the 4 visionaries at Garabandal).
And speaking of which, Conchita was reportedly given the date of the "Miracle" which she was told by the Blessed Virgin Mary would occur right after the Warning. Conchita was not only told the exact date of the great Miracle, she was told that she would be instructed by heaven to announce the Miracle to the world publicly 8 days before it occurs.
Now, one of the obvious requirements here is that Conchita must be alive to announce it to the world. Since she was born on February 7, 1949, she is therefore currently 71 years old. With this in mind one could conclude that the time for the Warning and Miracle is likely coming soon.
As for Fr. Michel Rodrigue, a prophet is judged by his prophecies. Time will tell whether they are authentic, or not. Meantime we would do well to bear in mind the Scriptural directive in 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21: "Do not despise prophecies, but test everything and hold fast to what is good."
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Update: September 3, 2020 Link to source document:
Amos, September 3, 2020
Subject: Disallowance of Father Michel Rodrigue‘s messages and prophecies
Brothers and sisters,
Father Michel Rodrigue arrived in the Diocese of Amos on August 1, 2011. We had met before, in May 2011, a month after I became Bishop of Amos. He had explained to me his plan to found, in our diocese, the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict Joseph Labre. It would have three branches and would be dedicated to the new evangelization in the hope of giving more life to small parishes. I welcomed it with confidence and hope. During the first five years, he was pastor of the two parishes of Amos and was also responsible for the formation and accompaniment of the members of the Fraternity: young men to become priests, female consecrated women and couples. At that time, we had frequent and very good exchanges.
450, Rue Principale Nord
+ Gilles Lemay
Subject: Disallowance of Father Michel Rodrigue‘s messages and prophecies
Brothers and sisters,
Father Michel Rodrigue arrived in the Diocese of Amos on August 1, 2011. We had met before, in May 2011, a month after I became Bishop of Amos. He had explained to me his plan to found, in our diocese, the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict Joseph Labre. It would have three branches and would be dedicated to the new evangelization in the hope of giving more life to small parishes. I welcomed it with confidence and hope. During the first five years, he was pastor of the two parishes of Amos and was also responsible for the formation and accompaniment of the members of the Fraternity: young men to become priests, female consecrated women and couples. At that time, we had frequent and very good exchanges.
In 2016, at the request of Father Michel Rodrigue, I agreed to release him from the parish priest hood of Amos and entrusted him with three small parishes, including St–Dominique–du–Rosaire where the Fraternity had already bought land. From the beginning, in order to have a Sunday free and despite the distance to be covered, Father Rodrigue organized the programming of Sunday masses, on the same Sunday, for his three parishes. This allowed him to have about ten consecutive days to dedicate himself to the formation of the members of the Fraternity and to other activities, such as parish retreats and others. Beginning in 2017, on several occasions, Father Rodrigue went to the United States to preach retreats; in 2019, the frequency became greater.
On March 25, 2020, while we were on a Covid–19 break, the Countdown to the Kingdom website posted eight lectures given in California by Father Michel Rodrigue in November 2019. He is presented as the “Apostle of the End Times” and an official exorcist of the Church. I would like to make it clear that he was never appointed official exorcist of the Diocese of Amos.
In the presentation of Father Michel Rodrigue, on the aforementioned website, appeared this statement: “Fr. Michel Rodrigue receives the full support of his bishop, and all of his locutions and visions are submitted to his local ordinary for approval”. Indignant and shocked, I wrote this to Father Rodrigue on April 21, 2020:
As I requested, corrections have been made on the aforementioned site. Unfortunately, the false statement is still present in Christine Watkins' book "The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience" (pages 278 and 280)
Today, September 3, 2020, more than four months later, I am making this statement public because I see that anguish is rising among many people who share Father Rodrigue‘s messages and prophecies. My Vicar General, Father Raymond Martel, devotes a lot of time to responding to e–mails from the four corners of the world, as well as phone calls from worried people.
To this total disavowal of Father Michel Rodrigue‘s messages and prophecies, I add that I withdraw my support and that of the Diocese of Amos from the Studium Saint–Joseph, founded in 2015 by Fathers Michel Rodrigue and Simon Dufour. This Studium, of which Father Rodrigue is the rector, had as its goal to give theological training in Abitibi, a region far from the major centers.
Finally, I would like to inform you that, since June 30, 2020, Father Michel Rodrigue‘s residence on our territory has become his only link with the Diocese of Amos. He has renounced his pastoral charge as pastor of the three parishes that I had entrusted to him. He also renounced his member ship in the Presbyteral Council and the College of consultors. He also retired as an active priest in the diocese. He remains an incardinated priest in the Diocese of Hearst–Moosonee, Ontario. At this time, postal mail is our only means of communication with him.
This is the light that must be shed to remove doubts and questions about the position of the Bishop of the Diocese of Amos and to warn fragile Christians. I invite you to reread the words of Jesus, quoted by Saint Luke: “Take heed that you not be deceived” (Lk 21:8; cf. Mt 24:4ff and Mk 13:32). Let us abandon ourselves to the divine Mercy of our God, from whom all comfort comes. May the Holy Spirit drive away from us all sickly fears and anxieties. May this prayer to Mary sustain and reassure us: “Under the shelter of your mercy, we take refuge, Holy Mother of God. Do not despise our prayers when we are in the trial, but from all dangers always deliver us, glorious and blessed Virgin.”
Trust and peace to all!
(SEAL) GILLES LEMAY EVEQUE DU DIOCESE D'AMOS
On March 25, 2020, while we were on a Covid–19 break, the Countdown to the Kingdom website posted eight lectures given in California by Father Michel Rodrigue in November 2019. He is presented as the “Apostle of the End Times” and an official exorcist of the Church. I would like to make it clear that he was never appointed official exorcist of the Diocese of Amos.
In the presentation of Father Michel Rodrigue, on the aforementioned website, appeared this statement: “Fr. Michel Rodrigue receives the full support of his bishop, and all of his locutions and visions are submitted to his local ordinary for approval”. Indignant and shocked, I wrote this to Father Rodrigue on April 21, 2020:
450, Rue Principale Nord
Amos (Québec) Canada J9T 2M1 Tél. 819–732–6515 Poste 201 Téléc. 819–732–7994
eveque@diocese–amos.org
I am extremely shocked and I feel betrayed by these remarks, since I never approved of them. I therefore ask you to correct this falsehood on the aforementioned site. I also want to be informed how and when this will be done. I want to make it clear that I absolutely disagree with the prophecies of you on the aforementioned site (Ex. Warning, days of darkness, Era of peace, punishment, World War III (nuclear war in 2020), construction of shelters, etc.). This is what I intend to answer to the people who have asked me.
As I requested, corrections have been made on the aforementioned site. Unfortunately, the false statement is still present in Christine Watkins' book "The Warning: Testimonies and Prophecies of the Illumination of Conscience" (pages 278 and 280)
Today, September 3, 2020, more than four months later, I am making this statement public because I see that anguish is rising among many people who share Father Rodrigue‘s messages and prophecies. My Vicar General, Father Raymond Martel, devotes a lot of time to responding to e–mails from the four corners of the world, as well as phone calls from worried people.
To this total disavowal of Father Michel Rodrigue‘s messages and prophecies, I add that I withdraw my support and that of the Diocese of Amos from the Studium Saint–Joseph, founded in 2015 by Fathers Michel Rodrigue and Simon Dufour. This Studium, of which Father Rodrigue is the rector, had as its goal to give theological training in Abitibi, a region far from the major centers.
Finally, I would like to inform you that, since June 30, 2020, Father Michel Rodrigue‘s residence on our territory has become his only link with the Diocese of Amos. He has renounced his pastoral charge as pastor of the three parishes that I had entrusted to him. He also renounced his member ship in the Presbyteral Council and the College of consultors. He also retired as an active priest in the diocese. He remains an incardinated priest in the Diocese of Hearst–Moosonee, Ontario. At this time, postal mail is our only means of communication with him.
This is the light that must be shed to remove doubts and questions about the position of the Bishop of the Diocese of Amos and to warn fragile Christians. I invite you to reread the words of Jesus, quoted by Saint Luke: “Take heed that you not be deceived” (Lk 21:8; cf. Mt 24:4ff and Mk 13:32). Let us abandon ourselves to the divine Mercy of our God, from whom all comfort comes. May the Holy Spirit drive away from us all sickly fears and anxieties. May this prayer to Mary sustain and reassure us: “Under the shelter of your mercy, we take refuge, Holy Mother of God. Do not despise our prayers when we are in the trial, but from all dangers always deliver us, glorious and blessed Virgin.”
Trust and peace to all!
(SEAL) GILLES LEMAY EVEQUE DU DIOCESE D'AMOS
450, Rue Principale Nord
+ Gilles Lemay
Bishop of Amos
Amos (Québec) Canada J9T 2M1
Amos (Québec) Canada J9T 2M1
Tél. 819–732–6515 Poste 201 Téléc. 819–732–7994
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Link to source document:
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September 7, 2020:
Countdown to the Kingdom's reply to Bishop Gilles Lemay's Open Letter of September 3rd, 2020:
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September 9, 2020:
Link to Source Document:
DIOCESE DE HEARST-MOOSONEE DIOCESE
Bureau de l'Eveque - Bishop's Office
C.P. 1330 - P.O. Box 1330
Hearst, Ontario - POL INO
Tel. - Phone: (705) 362-4903 - Fax: (705) 362-4421
LETTER TO THE FAITHFUL OF THE DIOCESE OF HEARST -MOOSONEE
Hearst, September 9,2020
Subject: Messages and prophecies of Father Michel Rodrigue
Brothers and sisters,
For a few months now, we have been hearing about Father Michel Rodrigue, a priest who worked in our parishes from 1989 to 1996. Father Michel Rodrigue then left the diocese and moved to Montreal to join the Sulpicians. Therefore, we had no news of him for many years.
Although he is still incardinated in our diocese, he has worked in the diocese of Amos since 2011 . In addition to having been parish priest, he also organized retreats and other activities in the Amos Diocese and elsewhere. He even introduces himself as "the apostle of the last days" and "an official exorcist of the Church". His presentations may be found on various websites. Father Rodrigue even declared that his messages and prophecies were supported by Bishop Lemay, the Bishop of Amos,who strongly denied any such support.
In union with Bishop Lemay, I express total disavowal of the messages and prophecies presented by Father Michel Rodrigue. I also refute his claim to be "an official exorcist of the Church".
Father Rodrigue currently has no pastoral charge or function in the Diocese of Amos nor in our diocese. He still resides in the Diocese of Amos.
I pray for all the faithful who may have experienced moments of anguish in the face of Father Rodrigue's words and presentations.
In Christ,
(Signature)
+ Robert Bourgon
Bishop of Hearst-Moosonee
(Official Seal: Robert Bourgon, Eveque-Bishop)
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Link to Source Document:
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Update September 27, 2020:
Fr. Michel Rodrigue respondsSOURCE: Fr. Michel Rodrigue Responds--Source Link
September 23, 2020
On the liturgical feast of Saint Padre Pio
After having read the public letter of September 3, 2020 published by Bishop Gilles Lemay from the Diocese of Amos, I would like to reiterate my fidelity to the teaching of the Catholic Church to all the faithful who read this letter.
I have been a priest since June 2, 1989, incardinated in the diocese of Hearst. In May 2011, I met Bishop Gilles Lemay to share with him the spiritual experience of the call to found a semi-monastic fraternity currently known as the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre. I arrived in the diocese of Amos on August 1, 2011. According to the original verbal agreement, which was for a period of three years, I was appointed pastor of the Cathedral of Amos and of Christ the King parish on August 15, 2011. In September 2011, I also accepted the parish-mission of Pikogan.
In 2014 at the request of the Bishop, I happily extended the curé for these same parishes for a period of two years. There, I met parishioners of great pastoral collaboration. It was on June 20, 2012, that the Bishop granted the Approval Decree of the Apostolic Fraternity Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre.
In 2016, I accepted the curé of the parishes of St-Félix-de-Dalquier, St-Dominique-du-Rosaire and Sacré-Coeur de Matagami, which according to the agreement, allowed for the development of the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict- Joseph Labre, located in St-Dominique-du-Rosaire.
In 2019, I preached a spiritual retreat in California which was featured on the Countdown to the Kingdom website. Besides personal messages, the teaching given was based on the messages of the Virgin Mary approved by the Church and in accordance with the Catechism of the Catholic Church, article 7, no 668 to 682.
A confusion has crept into the understanding of this retreat concerning an approval by Bishop Gilles Lemay regarding the messages contained in these conferences. I myself had this confusion corrected. The owners of the Countdown to the Kingdom website have responded positively and put the comment on their website.[1] I thank them very much.
Besides this, I never claimed that I was the exorcist of the Diocese of Amos. However, whenever I had to do a ministry in this area, I always asked for the approval of the Bishop. I know my pastoral and ecclesial responsibilities well.
In regards to the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre, the project continues to grow and fulfill the Will of the Father in its trust placed in the Hearts of Jesus and of Mary. It is in the joy of the Holy Spirit that we grow together. Our address has not changed and our phone number is still the same. You will find all the information on our website benoitlabre.org. As for the Studium St-Joseph, it remains online to meet the pressing needs for quality education.
I reiterate my desire to collaborate with the Bishop, the Magisterium of the Church and to maintain a fraternal bond with all people of different circles here, in the United States and with people around the world who support us. Abitibi Témiscamingue was the privileged place for our foundation. In this beautiful region of Quebec, inhabited by people strong in the Holy Spirit, we are happy to be here and to stay here.
Thanks everyone,
Michel Rodrigue, Fabl
Superior of the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint-Benedict-Joseph Labre
c.c. Mgr Gilles Lemay, Bishop of Amos
c.c. Mgr Robert Bourgon, Bishop of Hearst-Moosonee
c.c. Father François Hamel, d.j.c.
September 23, 2020
On the liturgical feast of Saint Padre Pio
After having read the public letter of September 3, 2020 published by Bishop Gilles Lemay from the Diocese of Amos, I would like to reiterate my fidelity to the teaching of the Catholic Church to all the faithful who read this letter.
I have been a priest since June 2, 1989, incardinated in the diocese of Hearst. In May 2011, I met Bishop Gilles Lemay to share with him the spiritual experience of the call to found a semi-monastic fraternity currently known as the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre. I arrived in the diocese of Amos on August 1, 2011. According to the original verbal agreement, which was for a period of three years, I was appointed pastor of the Cathedral of Amos and of Christ the King parish on August 15, 2011. In September 2011, I also accepted the parish-mission of Pikogan.
In 2014 at the request of the Bishop, I happily extended the curé for these same parishes for a period of two years. There, I met parishioners of great pastoral collaboration. It was on June 20, 2012, that the Bishop granted the Approval Decree of the Apostolic Fraternity Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre.
In 2016, I accepted the curé of the parishes of St-Félix-de-Dalquier, St-Dominique-du-Rosaire and Sacré-Coeur de Matagami, which according to the agreement, allowed for the development of the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict- Joseph Labre, located in St-Dominique-du-Rosaire.
In 2019, I preached a spiritual retreat in California which was featured on the Countdown to the Kingdom website. Besides personal messages, the teaching given was based on the messages of the Virgin Mary approved by the Church and in accordance with the Catechism of the Catholic Church, article 7, no 668 to 682.
A confusion has crept into the understanding of this retreat concerning an approval by Bishop Gilles Lemay regarding the messages contained in these conferences. I myself had this confusion corrected. The owners of the Countdown to the Kingdom website have responded positively and put the comment on their website.[1] I thank them very much.
Besides this, I never claimed that I was the exorcist of the Diocese of Amos. However, whenever I had to do a ministry in this area, I always asked for the approval of the Bishop. I know my pastoral and ecclesial responsibilities well.
In regards to the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint Benedict-Joseph Labre, the project continues to grow and fulfill the Will of the Father in its trust placed in the Hearts of Jesus and of Mary. It is in the joy of the Holy Spirit that we grow together. Our address has not changed and our phone number is still the same. You will find all the information on our website benoitlabre.org. As for the Studium St-Joseph, it remains online to meet the pressing needs for quality education.
I reiterate my desire to collaborate with the Bishop, the Magisterium of the Church and to maintain a fraternal bond with all people of different circles here, in the United States and with people around the world who support us. Abitibi Témiscamingue was the privileged place for our foundation. In this beautiful region of Quebec, inhabited by people strong in the Holy Spirit, we are happy to be here and to stay here.
Thanks everyone,
Michel Rodrigue, Fabl
Superior of the Apostolic Fraternity of Saint-Benedict-Joseph Labre
c.c. Mgr Gilles Lemay, Bishop of Amos
c.c. Mgr Robert Bourgon, Bishop of Hearst-Moosonee
c.c. Father François Hamel, d.j.c.
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373 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 373 of 373I forgot to add a link to a Church Militant article, "Mystic' Dupes Catholics with Fake Branding" which explores how Vassula Ryden used an imprimatur from the same former archbishop as Christine Watkins for promotional purposes. Vassula Ryden is not approved by the Catholic Church, as Church Militant explained. https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/mystic-dupes-catholics-with-imprimatur
To the anonymous poster at 5:55 above:
Criticizing Jimmy Akin because he spent tine discussing aliens misses the very valid point he made. The thinking of those who support people like Charlie Johnston, Fr. Rodrigue, the Garabandal prophecies and the like (he addresses many of them), are very much like the alien craze. True prophetic utterances will survive the pitfalls that false theories typically fall into. For anyone who seriously wants to understand the Church's approach the 80 minutes is well worth the time. I'm looking forward to his promised podcast on Fr. Rodrigue.
Akin does not "despise prophecies." He explains perfectly the tests that are applied to claims of prophetic utterances. Exactly the way the Church itself approaches these events and declarations.
Dan O’Connor and the folks at CTTK speak of the “prophetic consensus” as a way to bolster credibility of their seers. But what about the “episcopal consensus”? By that I mean all these seers, Charlie Johnston, Fr. Rodrigue, and the children of Garabandal, lack support of their Bishops. Does that not account for anything?
And another thing...the CTTK does not allow anyone to comment on their website. So there’s no questioning or open discussion. And you will NEVER find anything on the CTTK website that discusses weaknesses or potential problems with their seers.
Fortunately, we have Glenn’s site (this site) to discuss, debate, and question.
To Anoy at 12:39..
I get to use my logic class in seminary, oh joy!
All the alien talk in the podcast was setting up straw man argument which Akin and his guest proceeded to attack and take down. The guest then proceeded to compare the Warning to aliens and thus tried to apply the defeat of the straw man to all the prophecies of the Warning etc. My sincere hope the next podcast will at least wait until the end of Oct/Nov before they try to discredit Fr. Rodrigue.
I get there have been persons who have come and gone who have made predictions. The issue I have is we are also waiting on the fulfillment of Fatima, Garabandal, Akitya and Medjugorje.
Fatima is accepted
Garabandal is not..
Akitya is
First seven visions from Medjogorje are accepted.
If you take the work of the Blessed Mother in the 20th and 21st century. The work of Jesus, Our Lord, in Saint Faustina and Luisa Piccarreta (accepted by the Church) and others then Heaven is speaking. God has promised they would speak to use through prophets.
The Gospel does tell us we must become like little children if we hope to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Little children trust, little children love without questioning every pronouncement they hear.
May God have mercy on us all!
Michael,
You mention Medjugorje. How do you explain Vicka’s behavior in this 4 minute video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPDRbO_qJ7g
She claimed she was trying to “catch the baby Jesus” who the Blessed Virgin Mary dropped? Seriously?
Anoy,
My comment about Medjugorje being approved is about the Church's official pronouncement on it. It would appear the girl moved to avoid being poked in the eye.
If you think that's going invalidate the call to prayer, penance and faith I have to disagree.
God is perfect and He uses imperfect humans. That's why I'm waiting to see what happens. Praying, hoping, and waiting. May God's will be done.
I can understand people want certainty but you have to take these messages on faith.
Michael,
Did you watch the whole 4 minute video? Yes, she moved to avoid being poked in the eye - that’s my point! If she was in a supernatural trance she would have been oblivious to the hand near her eye. Then at the end of the video where she explained that the reason she moved was because the Blessed Mother was about to drop the baby Jesus. That was her explanation for moving - not the feigned eye poke. And if the absurdity of the Blessed Mother dropping the baby Jesus during an apparition is not enough, we would need to believe that the dropping of the baby Jesus occurred at the exact moment that the observer feigned the eye poke.
Anon,
Yes I watched the video. As I said she moved to avoid being poked. As to her story about the Blessed Mother dropping the baby Jesus, I highly doubt that is true.
So she (may have) made up a story, lied, does that negate apparitions?
My point is you seem to be saying that it is necessary for the people chosen by God to give His messages to be perfect and sinless. I don't agree with that thought.
Let's look at Christ's life, did Judas's sin negate the Cross? Did the fact that most of the apostles ran away from Jesus show anything more than the human nature that needs God's saving help?
What is the focus of this discussion? God or humans? If you want to point out the failures of humans, ok. Don't assume you can then apply that failure to the supernatural aspects. There is a distinction there that should be observed.
Michael, if you’re saying that a “seer” who lies about an “apparition” doesn’t negate their “revelations” then I suppose the messages to Maria Divine Mercy and Locutions to the World may in fact be true.
Anon,
What I'm saying, to clarify is don't blame/or distrust God or the Blessed Mother because of the failures of the human beings involved.
To use another example which I'm sure will open a hornet's nest, when I was a priest I heard multiple people complain about the priest abuse issue and use it as a reason to walk away from the church. The abuse was evil, but Jesus didn't do it, The abuse is evil, but Blessed Mother Mary didn't do it.
Who did it? Human men who in their free will chose to commit an evil act.
People expect Christians to walk around with a force field that prevents us from sinning or making a mistake. That's not the case. to use the logic language there is no casual relationship between any human failing and the negation of what Heaven is trying to do. Heaven is trying to wake humanity up. Anyone that thinks "oh the girl is lying, the whole thing is made up" is like a person that hears the alarm and decides to roll over and go back to sleep in sin. Not very wise in my opinion.
There is however people who are lying directly about being spoken to by Mary and Jesus. In that case it's solely the person's sin that is at issue. The struggle for us is figure out who's real and who's faking. If you want to blame God because we have to do that, I'll suggest you direct your concern to Jesus, He is true God and true Man.
On an related subject, Mark Mallett's latest video on CTTK is introduced with: "IN this final webcast on the Timeline of events of the “end times”, Mark Mallett and Prof. Daniel O’Connor explain what leads up to the Second Coming of Jesus in the flesh at the very end of time. Hear ten Scriptures that will be fulfilled before His return, how Satan attacks the Church one last time, and why we need to prepare for the Final Judgment now."
I think Daniel O'Connor should not allow himself to be addressed as Prof. O'Connor unless that is the job title he has at the academic institution to which he is attached.
Surely any future employers will look over all his publications and his social media projects, and if they see he has exaggerated his credentials he will be determined to be unemployable. Really, promoting yourself above the rank of "instructor" at a community college to "college professor" is simply bad form. I have read criticisms of this at several online sources, including sites of other published authors. It is at best misleading, based on O'Connor's self-assessment. My spouse has a Ph.D. and completed post-doctoral study, so I am very familiar with academic settings.
Anon,
And to draw upon more of my logic class training... complaining about someone's academic title in a discussion about whether or not the Warning may be coming is a red herring.
For the record, I've read/listed to Mr. O'Connor book which is available as an audio book free of charge on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf2hTqJx7dg it's a very good read and something I would highly recommend.
Once again, what's more important? Returning to God and saving your soul or whether or not Mr. Connor's academic credentials are correct?
I would agree with Michael regarding the post someone made on Dan OConnor’s credentials.
As an aside, there is plenty of questionable stuff on his website that is a legitimate focus for discussion, but debating as to whether or not an Adjunct Professor should use the title of Professor is silly. It is done all the time and I think it’s fine. And for what it’s worth I have a PhD myself, so I also know a bit about this subject.
To Michael at 4:40 yesterday says: "First seven visions from Medjogorje are accepted."
From an article in the National Catholic Reporter:
"According to Vatican Insider, 13 of the 14 commission members present at one meeting voted to recommend lifting the Vatican ban on official diocesan and parish pilgrimages to Medjugorje.
"The commission also recommended turning the town's parish Church of St. James into a pontifical shrine with Vatican oversight. The move, the commission said, would not signify recognition of the apparitions, but would acknowledge the faith and pastoral needs of the pilgrims while ensuring a proper accounting of the financial donations pilgrims leave.
"The commission's role was to make recommendations to the pope; its report is not an official church judgment on the apparitions. Pope Francis told reporters May 13 that "in the end, something will be said," but he gave no timeline."
Maybe anon, you have more current information.
Also Michael, Add this to your understanding of fallacies: The "fallacy-fallacy. https://effectiviology.com/fallacy-fallacy/
Above should read: Maybe Michael you have more current information.
Anon: vanity of vanities.. all things are vanity (Ecclesiastes 1:2-11) :)
I was pointing out what Anon's comments about O'Connor's academic title is. In the greater discussion this one particular topic is of no real value in my opinion. Hence the red herring comment.
Folks, lets be honest, God is in control, and earth is limited in its knowledge of His plans. I full agree the church has the duty to safeguard the faith and morals of it's members. But let's remember only God knows the full timeline and plan of salvation.
I also sense (this is my personal opinion) that we are seeing a repeat of several themes in scripture. One of them being the church dying and hopefully rising by God's grace. Another being Jesus wanting his Will being done and humans (even in the church) refusing to do it. So all in all, God will act when He wants.
Anon 12:51,
If someone in my spouse's department held the title of lecturer and published an article listing him/herself professor, that would be a very big deal. If someone on the adjunct faculty dropped the adjunct and listed him/herself as professor, another very big deal. Perhaps the sciences (spouse's area) are more concerned with "details."
All these Countdown people seem to exaggerate things, at every level, so why not? They're already claiming to know way more about theology than they do.
Mary H,
You are write about being careful with CTTK because the authors also sell products and make $$.
Lea Mallett's oil store is a website called Bloom Crew. She has e-books on "Oil of the Good Samaritan" which is something Luz de Maria said she got from the Blessed Mother!
https://www.thebloomcrew.com/
Lea Mallett sells her oils, etc., here.
https://www.thebloomcrew.com/order-your-oils
Michael yes, all *is* vanity. We agree with Qoheleth. And there is in fact nothing new under the sun, is there?
Anon,
Nothing new under the sun? what about my waistline?, That wasn't there ten years ago :)
Just kidding.. well I think this is my last post in this thread because we seem to have lost the original topic and now we are just bashing people.
I pray for everyone, I mean that.. but my prayers aren't going to save your soul. If you are not really sure about all this, do yourself a favor, go to confession. As a former priest and regular partaker of the sacrament, I know it can be a bit anxious but do yourself a favor, find a church with a long line and pray it's because of a good priest.
It was in the Gospel recently, Many are invited, few are chosen. He does the inviting, We are the ones that do the choosing.
Peace be with you all!
For those who judge and bash, please remember every word is going to be judged by God. Choose your words carefully. (see Matthew 12:36)
In the spirit of getting this thread back on track, this was posted today by proponents of Fr. Michel:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/E5ugOvKMwDA
It seems they’re now backing away from anything significant happening this month (October).
I believe this is the prophecy regarding October 2020:
My dear people of God, we are now passing a test. The great events of purification will begin this fall. Be ready with the Rosary to disarm Satan and to protect our people. Make sure that you are in the state of grace by having made your general confession to a Catholic priest. The spiritual battle will begin. Remember these words: "THE MONTH OF THE ROSARY WILL SEE GREAT THINGS!" (October 2020)
I guess in a few weeks we’ll be debating whether or not “GREAT THINGS” happened during October so as to validate Fr. Michel’s prophecies.
I’m wondering why Fr. Michel’s Bishop doesn’t institute an investigation. If what he has predicted is true, it needs to be shouted from the rooftops, and if not the faithful need to know.
The point of an investigation is to give the bishop information he needs to make a judgement. Fr. Rodrigue's bishops said he made false statements about things involving them (exorcisms, providing messages). They had personal knowledge he said untruthful things. No long investigation needed to make a decision on him.
To anonymous above, if the Bishops really found that Fr. Michel “said untruthful things” I’m sure they would have condemned his messages, and he would not remain a priest in good standing. The Bishops simply gave their personal opinion that they don’t believe the prophecies but they did NOT tell the faithful that his messages were false and they should stop believing his messages.
Anon,
Fr. Rodrigue "retired" from all Church positions. The bishop of Amos severed connection with the new order founded by Fr. Rodrigue. Orders cannot continue if they are not under the supervision of the Church and a bishop. His isn't. The bishops spoke in the strongest language. Their official pronouncements are binding on Catholics because bishops have teaching authority in matters of faith and morals and Catholics owe their teachings assent under canon law. They said they completely rejected the messages, removed jobs, stripped of faculties, as part of official action against Fr. Rodrigue. He is only reachable by mail.
This misunderstanding probably comes from the disobedient stance taken by the CTTK website. Read the letters again. The CTTK have done grave harm to souls with their media push on these often fringe messengers!
From Catholic CultureL
No private individual has the authority to judge definitively and officially which private revelations are true and which are not.
The authority to rule on the genuineness of a private revelation rests first with the local bishop.
The apparitions of Lourdes, Knock, Fatima, Beauraing, Banneux — to name only a few — were approved by the local bishops. The Popes of the time never issued any judgment on them.
The current canonical practice is that the local bishop must appoint a committee to investigate and rule on any private revelation (if he thinks it worthy of investigation), but the Holy See may intervene if necessary or if the bishop asks it to. Alternatively, he may ask the episcopal conference of his country to assist in the investigation and judgment.
It is forbidden, as well as sinful, to propagate private revelations which have received a negative judgment from the local bishop, the conference of bishops, or the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Some people say, "I'm going to follow it until the Pope says it's false" This is a useless guide for action in this matter — very rarely does the Pope make a pronouncement for or against a revelation.
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6602
To Anon above,
Sorry, no. The bishop unfortunately did not speak in the strongest language possible.
All this could be cleared up by stating that messages are judged to be not of supernatural origin if that is how he sees them. No more ifs or buts after that (unless taken up by the Vatican -- which it does not need to take place).
One simple but powerful and unambiguous sentence would conclude this "issue".
His published statements left so much gray area that both sides can make arguments in either case. Given this confusion, I wish the bishop would post a point blank, direct and unambiguous statement on the matter.
Oops, posting @ October 14, 2020 at 4:02 PM is directed at Anon @ October 14, 2020 at 3:06 PM
I believe it is appropriate to draw attention at this time to the 1983 Codex Iuris Canonici:
Can. 386 §1. A diocesan bishop, frequently preaching in person, is bound to propose and explain to the faithful the truths of the faith which are to be believed and applied to morals. He is also to take care that the prescripts of the canons on the ministry of the word, especially those on the homily and catechetical instruction, are carefully observed so that the whole Christian doctrine is handed on to all.
§2. Through more suitable means, he is firmly to protect the integrity and unity of the faith to be believed, while nonetheless acknowledging a just freedom in further investigating its truths.
Can. 212 §1. Conscious of their own responsibility, the Christian faithful are bound to follow with Christian obedience those things which the sacred pastors, inasmuch as they represent Christ, declare as teachers of the faith or establish as rulers of the Church.
Based upon the above considerations:
Bishops Bourgon and Lemay have made known their mind on the question of Fr. Rodrigue;
They have declared their total disavowal of Rodrigue’s alleged messages;
In doing so, they have exercised their office;
The faithful are bound to obey what has been stated.
I would add to these considerations the observation that BOTH Bishops have indicated that Rodrigue was never an official exorcist. This can be interpreted as a tongue-in-cheek (indirect) statement that Rodrigue has misrepresented himself, if not actually lied.
kevinsymondsDOTcom
Also,
1. If, on the occasion of a presumed supernatural fact, there arises in a spontaneous way among the faithful a certain cult or some devotion, the competent Ecclesiastical Authority has the serious duty of looking into it without delay and of diligently watching over it.
2. If the faithful request it legitimately (that is, in communion with the Pastors, and not prompted by a sectarian spirit), the competent Ecclesiastical Authority can intervene to permit or promote some form of cult or devotion, if, after the application of the above criteria, nothing stands in the way. They must be careful that the faithful not interpret this practice as approval of the supernatural nature of the fact on the part of the Church (cf. Preliminary note c).
3. By reason of its doctrinal and pastoral task, the competent Authority can intervene motu proprio and indeed must do so in grave circumstances, for example in order to correct or prevent abuses in the exercise of cult and devotion, to condemn erroneous doctrine, to avoid the dangers of a false or unseemly mysticism, etc.
4. In doubtful cases that clearly do not put the good of the Church at risk, the competent Ecclesiastical Authority is to refrain from any judgment and from any direct action (because it can also happen that, after a certain period of time, the presumed supernatural fact falls into oblivion); it must not however cease from being vigilant by intervening if necessary, with promptness and prudence.
III. AUTHORITIES COMPETENT TO INTERVENE
1. Above all, the duty of vigilance and intervention falls to the Ordinary of the place.
2. The regional or national Conference of Bishops can intervene:
a) If the Ordinary of the place, having done his part, turns to it to judge the matter with greater certainty;
b) If the matter pertains to the national or regional level; always, however, with the prior consent of the Ordinary of the place.
3. The Apostolic See can intervene if asked either by the Ordinary himself, by a qualified group of the faithful, or even directly by reason of the universal jurisdiction of the Supreme Pontiff (cf. infra, no. IV).
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19780225_norme-apparizioni_en.html
In a letter to his supporters dated March 26, 2020 Fr. Michel writes the following:
"My dear people of God, we are now passing a test. The great events of purification will begin this fall. Be ready with the Rosary to disarm Satan and to protect our people. Make sure that you are in the state of grace by having made your general confession to a Catholic priest. The spiritual battle will begin.
Remember these words: THE MONTH OF THE ROSARY WILL SEE GREAT THINGS!"
-Dom Michel Rodrigue, fabl
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So, "THE MONTH OF THE ROSARY WILL SEE GREAT THINGS!"
Fr. Michel wrote that sentence in caps.
As far as I can tell we have not yet seen any great things this month, but we have 17 days left to go. So let's wait and see!
To Anon @ OCTOBER 14, 2020 AT 5:01 PM
Unfortunately, the use of the term disavowal is not clear as to whether it is a condemnation, distancing without a judgement or claiming ignorance that the content of the messages has not been analyzed.
Why:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/disavowal
disavowal
noun [ C or U ]
UK /ˌdɪs.əˈvaʊ.əl/ US /ˌdɪs.əˈvaʊ.əl/
the action of saying that you know nothing about something, or that you have no responsibility for or connection with something
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disavow
disavow verb
dis·avow | \ ˌdis-ə-ˈvau̇ \
disavowed; disavowing; disavows
Definition of disavow
transitive verb
1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/disavowal
disavowal
(dɪsəvaʊəl )
Word forms: plural disavowals
COUNTABLE NOUN
A disavowal of something is a statement that you are not connected with it or responsible for it, or that you no longer agree with or believe in it.
Anon above,
Of course, Bishop Lemay was writing in Quebecois French, this is a translation, so that may impact things a bit. But you are here to win points, not to discern, that is clear.
I hope you don't draw others to follow the predictions of this troubled priest who had brushes with the demonic as a child, all detailed by Mark Miravelle.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
to anon above....I think the point is that the Bishops could have chosen to condemn the messages, to tell Fr. Michel that he is no longer to promote his messages, to tell the faithful not to read the messages, and to ask Catholic websites promoting his messages to take them down. However the Bishops didn’t. They chose to give their personal opinion/assessment and made no official declaration on behalf of the Catholic Church. I wish the Bishops were clear and unambiguous, but they weren’t. Maybe they were covering themselves in the event Fr. Michel’s messages might be true.
No, the bishops called Fr. Rodrigue a liar. He lied about his status as exorcist, he lied that he shared his messages with his bishop, he lied that he had his bishop's approval to share the messages.
The bishops publicly agree on this. They agree his messages have caused upset and harm to many of the faithful. They don't have to speak on the validity of the messages, because if they issue from a priest who lies, they cannot be truly from God.
The Vatican guidelines say to look first at the character of the messenger. The bishops did. Fr. Rodrigue failed that test. They took formal action, as bishops, removed him from all duties, retired him, withdrew support from his "order" and told Catholics to beware of false prophets. They did this in the exercise of their teaching authority and administration authority as bishops.
How sad to see the misinformed "experts" on canon law--the Countdown authors--spread their disobedience to bishops acting lawfully under canon law over the internet.
The Countdown website includes the messages of Edson Glauber, whose bishop has banned him and his followers from holding events and continuing to spread the messages in his diocese. The bishop's intent is clear. But the Countdown people see a loophole--the bishop didn't specifically mention the internet!--and they continue to profit over messages the local ordinary clearly has judged negatively.
The Countdown authors are gravely disobedient. They profit off the fears of the Catholics they purport to evangelize. They tell Catholics to get 'blessed grapes' to protect themselves. They sell oil concoctions. People who swallow their arguments do grave harm to the Body of Christ.
At best, they defend the visions of a troubled priest. At worst, they spread demonic-inspired messages to cause fear and apprehension at a difficult time.
To Anon above @ Oct 15, 2020 AT 10:30 AM
We don't all claim to be experts on canon law. Communication to us lay people should be clear, unambiguous and not requiring a degree in theology and canon law. We should not be expected to look up the nuances of canon law.
Do you really believe people know every single detail on how messages are assessed and what validates or invalidates a supposed supernatural message?
You mention Edson Glauber; I have no idea who that is. I did not read the CTTK site enough to encounter said individual. But from your own statement, note the difference in the way his bishop handled him. BANNED.
Given the number of individuals who have come across Fr. Rodrigue's messages and not just via the CTTK site, the bishops should make their proclamations clear and unambiguous to remove any confusion. His videos on QoP were being *recommended* by Youtube if you watched any orthodox Catholic Youtube channels!
BTW, I am not supporting Fr. Rodrigue but I *DO* have doubts as to whether it was officially condemned or not.
CATHOLICS there is much more info on this and MORE on Catholic topics in general here: https://catholicguidance.blogspot.com/2020/01/ublock-origin-blocks-annoying-adds-when_12.html
Anon @2:37,
What part of Catholics owe respect to the negative judgment of bishops don't you understand?
Anon @ 8:23 PM
The part that an actual negative judgement has been made!
Anon above,
Clearly you really just want to "win." You refuse to engage with canon law or the Vatican guidelines.
Some clear thinking on Fr. Rodrigue---Jimkmy Akin.
https://sqpn.com/2020/10/the-apostle-of-the-last-times-fr-michel-rodrigue-apocalyptic-prophecy-private-revelation-last-days-end-times/
That's Jimmy Akin a major contributor of Catholic Answers.
Thank you for the episode on Fr. Rodrigue! With all respect, he needs much, much prayer. I hope Fr. Rodrigue gets the help he needs! God bless.
I am the anonymous above!
For anyone interested in the "bottom line" the podcast episode talks about condemnation from 1:30 to the end 1:54.
The bishops have condemned Fr. Rodrigue's messages according to the CDF in the Vatican.
I hope Christine Watkins and Daniel O'Connor respond to this publicly!
Please, pray for everyone involved!
What an incredible and detailed analysis Jimmy Akin did in his podcast today:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msbotf5PEio
It’s two hours long and was well worth the investment of my time. Like many of you, I had been stockpiling 3 months worth of food and water in anticipation of Fr. Michel’s prophecies. After listening to this podcast I no longer believe these prophecies, I feel a bit embarrassed that I allowed myself to get caught up in this nonsense, and the anxiety I have been living with since learning about Fr. Michel is gone.
God bless Jimmy Akin.
To Anon @ Oct 16, 2020 AT 9:11 AM
I don't understand what exactly I would want to win. I would want some definitive and unambiguous closure from the church hierarchy with easy to understand statements and not words that could be taken to mean multiple things.
I am troubled by the lack of clarity with the phrasing used. I am not in any way trying to state or come across that I support Fr. Rodrigue messages, and I am not defending him. I am also not trying to contradict the Bishop and I hope my comments don't appear to come across as so.
I have never read Canon law, I don't know the ins and outs of all judgement guidelines and criteria; most other lay individuals who have read/listened to the messages and prophecies are in the same boat as well.
All I would want is a short, direct and concise statement just like for example the one used by the Bishop in MDM's case (if such is the case -- and I am not trying to state that it isn't)
Good morning, Anon 12:22!
It's all in the podcast. The last hour is the best part. Maybe the last half-hour? To explain everything about the bishops letters.
I've just read a story at the CNN website about an Australian man who was caught up in the whole QAnon craze. I have to wonder to what extent the hubbub surrounding people like Charlie Johnston and Fr. Rodrigue is a kind of "Catholic QAnon." A point the Australian man makes is that you can't just use logic to pull people out of the vortex of conspiracy theories because adherence to these theories is a sign of deeper emotional issues.
To anonymous above who is waiting for more clarity from the Bishops, I doubt they will make any additional statement or comment. However if you are unclear as to the veracity of Fr. Rodrigue’s messages I suggest you watch the 2-hour Jimmy Akin podcast. If that doesn’t convince you, nothing will. I think the story about being poisoned with a Russian bio weapon and then going to the hospital and meeting the very doctor who developed it in Russia should have clued us off. And if that ain’t enough, consider that the CTTK promotes “seers” who tell us to eat blessed grapes. Does this sound like the Catholicism of the Baltimore Catechism or a bunch of superstitious malarkey?
The Bishops cannot issue a clear, straightforward and unambiguous statement as to whether voting for Joe Biden is a mortal sin. Don’t hold your breath waiting for the Bishops to issue a clear, straightforward and unambiguous statement on Fr. Michel Rodrigue.
This fake so called priest of the novus ordo sect is deceived by demons.He believe in the false medjugorje apparitions and in the false faustina kowalska devotion. None of his so called predictions that are supposed to happen soon will happen. He is just toy of demons pray for his conversion
Glenn, the previous post seems to be suggesting that the Novus Ordo Mass is fake. I’m sure if your blog guidelines prohibit this type of post.
I second Anon at 5:41 PM.
Well, the month of the Rosary is seeing incredible things.
The Pope just approved, for all intents and purposes, homosexual unions.
Let me repeat: the Pope!
Does this not rank among the most incredible things that could happen?
The pope did not contradict any Catholic doctrine--none. Sex in any context other than a sacramental marriage between a man and a woman is as objectively sinful as it ever was. Nothing the pope said contradicts that. Adultery, fornication, self-pleasuring---all those things remain verbotten. What the pope is saying is that everyone--gays included--have a right to the same benefits— family health insurance and inheritance rights among other legal rights. Gays also have a right to deep and lasting friendships. Then he is reminding us that we have no right to judge with respect to the sinfulness of others.
And to echo the gospel, who of us have the right to judge anyone? Who of us can cast the first stone?
If you oppose the Pope's teaching you really need to study and understand Christian morality a lot better than you do. The pope really has changed nothing.
[Old joke: Picture the parable of the woman caught in adultery. Jesus says "let the person who is without sin cast the first stone." All leave except one woman who pics up small pebbles and begins to throw them at the woman, missing her target. And Jesus says "Mom!"]
I agree with the above poster. The Pope did not endorse homosexual sodomy. I understood him to simply say that homosexual persons have the right to health care, inheritance benefits, housing, etc. This is no different than any other sinner having those same rights.
And to the poster at 9:09 PM, seriously? You have to come up with something more compelling besides that statement from the Pope to try to suggest that Fr. Michel’s prophecy about the month of the Rosary has been fulfilled.
To the two posters above...
You’re kidding right?
The Pope just endorse homosexual unions.
ROME (AP) — Pope Francis became the first pontiff to endorse same-sex civil unions in comments for a documentary that premiered Wednesday, sparking cheers from gay Catholics and demands for clarification from conservatives, given the Vatican’s official teaching on the issue.
Yes, the Pope endorsed civil unions but not sodomy.
The question though is whether that constitutes a fulfillment of Fr. Michel’s prophecy.
Anon @ 10:47
There is a huge difference between a sacramental marriage and a civil union. A civil union is merely a legal relationship that confers certain legal rights on two people. It is not a marriage.
Let me give you an example of a civil union that would have been entirely appropriate. I had two aunts who never married and who lived with and took care of my grandmother until she died. They continued to live together after she died. All their lives they paid taxes as single women even though they lived as family unit for several decades. Had they been able to form a civil union they would have been able to pay taxes as any ordinary family might. That's just one example of the rights and privileges one gets as a civilly united family. Those rights are just and good.
Separate sex from legal rights if you can, first because they are separate issues and second, because you should be careful about judging others.
With Garabandal, I suggest you do the same as I did, trying to know the truth about it: read some book about it. When you do, with Garabandal the outcome is that you really need to make an effort not to believe in it.
If Pope John Paul II, Paul VI, Padre Pio, Mother Theresa etc etc are wrong about it... In whom are we going to trust as of discernment concerns?
One important thing regarding private revelations:
As far as there are no heresies, the truth is that bishops or even Rome, has little to say as to wether prophetic events can or cannot be truth. It is simply out of their scope, since a gratis datae grace as that of prophecie can be inspired even to pagans.
Wait and see, is the only answer for any spiritual director, bishop or even the Pope.
Out of findings heresies, lay believers will find no clue at all by submitting their own opinion to that of the "bishop".
As stated, prophecy discernment is out of their scope.
Faith and Morals is.
To previous poster. So if someone claims that an angel told them that there are little green men living on Mars we should take the position that they may be correct? After all the presence or absence of Martians would not contradict the teachings of the Church.
We had a guy posting on this blog not too long ago who said he was the resurrected John the Baptist as well as Peter Romanus. Should we give him the benefit of the doubt as well given that what he was saying was not heresy?
The fact is the Bishops do have jurisdiction on these matters and their statements must be taken very seriously when they pronounce on the claims, particularly fantastic claims, made by seers. It seems to me that whenever a Bishop says something positive about a seer, that seer’s supporters are quick to jump on that as an affirmation of the truth of those messages and yet had that same Bishop issued a negative assessment we’re told by the seer’s supporters that the Bishop must be wrong.
What happened in the month of October? The Pope advocates same sex union and France beheadings, latest is 3 dead in a Catholic Church! An old Christian woman was beheaded! We definitely SAW events in this month and we still got 2 more days to go. Please pray for their souls.
To anon @ 10:45.
The beheading you mention was very sad but not particularly unusual. Is being martyred on a beach any different than being martyred in a church? Looked at carefully, the pope really said nothing new. In the past couple of years alone there have been far more events of moment.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abp-vigano-warns-trump-about-great-reset-plot-to-subdue-humanity-destroy-freedom
Here is your schism folks.. I fully believe Fr. Michel's prediction has shown it self to be trust worthy. God have mercy on us.
Anon @ 8:44:
In the same way that Charlie Johnston was using his whole fake operation for political purposes, it doesn't surprise me that this whole Fr. Michel stuff was either aimed at, or is being co-opted, toward a political end.
Fr. Michel said we would see GREAT THINGS (that’s plural folks) during October. Pope Francis making yet another fuzzy non-magisterial statement that could actually be interpreted in an Orthodox way is hardly newsworthy, and to most faithful Catholics it just invoked a yawn and “here we go again” response. But folks can certainly hang their hats on this latest controversy as confirmation of a GREAT THING but to me it’s a stretch. In fact, had Pope Francis not made a controversial statement or did something else questionable, e.g., Pachamama, for a whole month...now that would be newsworthy!
We need to realize that folks have invested a lot in Fr. Michel’s prophecies by stocking up beans and water, and telling their family and friends that the end is near. I did the same with the Charlie Johnston prophecies.
There is a blue moon/full moon tonight. Can this be the sign we have been waiting for?
“The Oct. 31 full moon also happens to be a "blue moon," a designation for the second full moon to occur in a single calendar month. Blue moons are relatively rare as well, occurring on average just once every 2.5 years or so. We last saw one in March 2018. The next one is in August 2023.”
And nothing extraordinary has happened in October :-( /sob, whimper, cry
Where does the CTTK stand on all this now that it’s November 1st?
Will they claim that the Pope’s statement on civil unions coupled with the blue moon last night constitutes the Great Things prophesied for October?
Will they say that the timeline has been pushed back due to prayer?
Will they simply start promoting another seer and ignore this?
What about the “prophetic consensus” we were all told about?
Are they still telling us to stockpile 3 months of food and water?
To anon above, CTTK has already posted a video about it. I have NOT watched it yet, but they sure were ready for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN4nmm4I6tI
That video is 60 minutes long. If you need an hour to go through all sorts of mental gymnastics to tie the pieces together to make the case what is that telling you? Perhaps, the lady doth protest too much.
But watch the video for yourselves. It didn’t convince me that the “Great Things” that happened in October are any different than the Great Things that happen every other month of the year. If the prophecy was that Great Things would have occurred in September, I have no doubt they could have made the identical case...only pointing to other events.
But judge for yourselves.
It appears President Trump is headed for defeat based on current swing vote states. It’s not over as I write his, but it appears close to over. There were an awful lot of “the Lord told me Trump would win” prophets that will need to go down in defeat also with Fr Miguel. Pat Robertson, a plethora of Sid Roth guests, and they were a dime a dozen on the 700 Club.. what now? Pat Robertson plainly stated “God told me...” seems like prophecy has gotten a little out of hand these last few decades, with a myriad of people claiming insight, but wrong in the end.
Trump is not god, neither saint. Let those honest believers come to their senses, when we see a dictator in office who adopts practices to stay in power known from third world countries. If Trump tells you that a volcano or a tsunami won't matter and will go away, will you bet your life and your kids' life on that? Because he said that about the coronavirus, and it isn't going away, it increases. Yes he beated covid with the most modern medicine including from abortion cells. If that is not an eye opener...But you know, covid is a result of the 5G towers and masonic propaganda. Vigano said so. Again, will you bet your lives and those of your loved ones on that statement? But...what counts are our eternal lives, and we'd better be martyrs... Well, the news is, the Church on the other side of the chastisement will have very few of the traditionalists. Practically those who reject that line of thought will be those who will be saved. If you get what I am telling you, before demonizing me too. The choice is yours.
For all those sincere believers who think Vigano is right:
1. Did Jesus ever instruct the Apostles to burn people alive because they would believe wrongly or interpret wrongly His words?
2. Was the Church right to burn people alive, and if not, were there wrong decisions in its vast teaching, teachings that are NOT DOGMAS?
3. If there were wrong decisions and wrong non-dogmatic teachings, why Vigano and others want to unearth them today, after a number of popes, saints and Councils changed that course?
4. If Vigano and others want to sacrifice lives as a final goal (albeit not a burning stake at city marketplace rather burning lava or asteroid that the people should not attempt to escape because it is "not the will of god"), why would YOU put your kids' life on that stake? Of course they will say "fight for unborn life", how otherwise you would be deluded?
"To deceive if possible even the elect ones".
Fr. Ripperger – Fighting Back Against the Satanic Mob
We interviewed renowned exorcist, Fr. Chad Ripperger, on the Grace Force Podcast. This was a captivating interview, as Fr. Ripperger likened the present evil, both in the culture and in the Church, to an abusive husband. It’s one of the worst oppressions he has ever known. It’s a mob under the rule of Satan that is pulling out all the stops, whether it is gaslighting, chilling effect or the “cancel culture,” we are being threatened and violated from just about everywhere.
We asked Fr. Ripperger to give us advice in how we can fight back against the Goliath that is the “Satanic Mob,” usurping power and control in our culture and our Church. Fr. Ripperger remarked that there is a prayer (see here to the right) going around social media that claims it is his recommendation. Fr. Ripperger said that, while this is a nice suggestion, it did not come from him.
Here is what Fr. Ripperger “actually” suggests (below) for all of us do to “fight back,” until the election is called:
Be Strong in God’s Grace!
Frequent Confession
Frequent Communions
Daily Rosary
Much Mortification & Fasting
Much Trust in God’s Providence and the Power of Our Lady’s Intercession
Daily Pray the Following Two Prayers
CONTINUED
Consecration of One’s Exterior Goods to the Blessed Virgin Mary
(This prayer is particularly useful for breaking various forms of oppression. By relinquishing what belongs to us into the hands of the Blessed Virgin, Satan cannot touch them. This is a strong prayer of protection on you and yours):
I; (Name), a faithless sinner, renew and ratify today in thy hands the vows of my Baptism; I renounce forever Satan, his pomps and works; and I give myself entirely to Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Wisdom, to carry my cross after Him all the days of my life, and to be more faithful to Him than I have ever been before. In the presence of all the heavenly court, I choose thee, O Mary, this day for my Mother and Mistress. Knowing that I have received rights over all my exterior goods by the promulgation of the Natural Law by the Divine Author, I deliver and consecrate to thee, as thy slave, all of my exterior goods, past, present and future; I relinquish into thy hands, my Heavenly Mother, all rights over my exterior goods, including our President, the fairness, honesty and accuracy of the outcome of the election, and our country and I retain for myself no right of disposing the goods that come to me but leave to thee the entire and full right of disposing of all that belongs to me, without exception, according to thy good pleasure, for the greater glory of God in time and in eternity. As I now interiorly relinquish what belongs to me exteriorly into thy hands, I entrust to thee the protection of those exterior goods against the evil one, so that, knowing that they now belong to thee, he cannot touch them. Receive, O good and pious Virgin, this little offering of what little is, in honor of, and in union with, that subjection which the Eternal Wisdom deigned to have to Thy maternity; in homage to the power which both of You have over this poor sinner, and in thanksgiving for the privileges with which the Holy Trinity has favored thee. Trusting in the providential care of God the Father and thy maternal care, I have full confidence that thou wilst take care of me as to the necessities of this life and will not leave me forsaken. God the Father, increase my trust in Thy Son’s Mother; Our Lady of Fair Love, give me perfect confidence in the providence of Thy Son. Amen.
Sending Evil Back
(Fr. Chad Ripperger comments that the following prayer may appear harsh, in that it seems to seek evil befall on another, yet it is meant to expose evil and to teach that evil does not win. And, in fact, choosing evil will, eventually, lead to bad repercussions)
Jesus and Mary, I ask that if it be Your Holy Will, that any curses or evil sent against the President or the election process be sent back from whence they came.
Fr. Ripperger strongly recommends this book – Deliverance Prayers: For Use by the Laity.
Please WATCH & SHARE!!
https://usgraceforce.com/grace-force-podcast-episode-64-fr-ripperger-fighting-back-against-the-satanic-mob/
Ah, Mary H., the final "prayer" exposes your political aim.We had enough of that from Charlie Johnston.
Enough already with using our Catholic religion to support a narcissist president. (I don't "curse him," I pray for his conversion as well as the conversion of us all.)
Really? Since when is praying for the leader of a country, and an honest outcome to an election, an agenda? That's what they did at my parish this month...
The exact words, BTW: "including our President, the fairness, honesty and accuracy of the outcome of the election, and our country."
Maybe read carefully before you come on here and accuse others. Stop with the name-calling ("narcissist") as well!
The supporters of Donald Trump have to seriously examine the time and energy they spend dwelling on this man. If they conclude that he is occupying an inordinate amount of time, they need to reassess their prayer life, their priorities, etc. The greatest commandment is to love the LORD your GOD with all your heart, mind and soul and to love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus is first, people are second. Also our neighbor includes all the people that we despise politically.
Anonymous 12:08
It's clear who has an agenda. You should go to a political blog, though, instead of hijacking this one. This one is about some false messengers and those who profit from them, like CTTK.
Mary H., I apologize if you were merely praying for our president. I do too.
The way it came across to me though was that it was aimed at anyone who opposes this president. I mean, why would anyone feel obliged to protect against "curses or evil sent against the President or the election process?" That certainly comes across as a political statement more than a typical prayer for the leaders of our country.
Now if you tell me you are a Democrat and you voted for Joe Biden, I'll give your protestation at 2:05 pm more credibility.
Did great things happen in the month of October? Does anyone still believe this may be true?
And so far nothing of the importance that Fr.Rodrigue and CTTK predicted have occurred this fall, with about a month to go. If anything we have gotten exceptionally good news with COVID vaccines ready to come online. God is good.
As soon as I saw this post I thought of Charlie Johnston. I was skeptical about him as I am of Fr. Michel. Fear is useless, what is needed is trust. Jesus, I Trust in You.
God has been reaching out to his messengers, seers the chosen prophets of our time, because time is running out...The enemy is advancing because of Man's lethargy and lukewarmness...This is an urgent call for humanity to go back to God. You dont have to wait for the Warning or the Illumination of Conscience to happen because it will have a significant impact and some might not survive depending on the gravity of their sins..
This is a call and must be heeded..God is not sleeping, He knows everything all your excuses and lies, all those things that you have done with good and bad intentions..
Now is the hour, pray the Rosary and seek the Sacrament of Reconciliation and take the Holy Eucharist..
There is a quote above in which Fr. Rodrigue is reported to have said: “My dear people of God, we are now passing a test. The great events of purification will begin this fall.”
Have the great events of purification happened yet? We were told by CTTK that the Pope’s statement last month about civil unions fulfilled the prophecy of Fr. Rodrigue of great things happening in the month of the Rosary. So has the great events beginning in the fall prophecy been fulfilled as well?
Also, this summer we were told to store up 3 months of food. When are we supposed to be eating that food? I would suspect it would be this year. Why would we be asked to store 3 months of food in the summer of 2020 if it wasn’t needed until 2021?
In regards to the food, we are supposed to be in refuges for 3 years. How will 3 months of food help us? Will God be supplying the food? Also what if our refuges is our home, where will the 3 years of food come from? What about 3 years of water, medicine, waste disposal - will trash be still hauled away by the department of public works? I thought the whole world will be in chaos.
9:24 PM — We've been through all this before, haven't we? Startling prophecies, stockpiling food, refuges — the whole bit. Charlie Johnston managed to fool many, and he continues to lead a very small group of people holding 'nutter' views. For the rest the old saying applies, "Fool me once shame on me; fool me twice, shame on you."
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teaching. It is good to have our hearts strengthened by grace and not by foods, which do not benefit those who live by them." Hebrews 13:8-9
What I noticed about the Countdown to the Kingdom website is they don’t allow comments or discussion. Also, they NEVER publish anything that is questionable about the seers they are pushing. For example, this business of blessed grapes promoted by one of their seers. And when there’s a failed prophecy they fall back on the *prophetic consensus* nonsense.
The Catholic World Report published an Advent piece by Father Matthew MacDonald. He gives some great advice. https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/11/28/in-advent-we-are-called-to-prepare-for-the-coming-of-christ-in-three-ways/ Here is an excerpt: In becoming too fixated on knowing when Jesus will come at the end of time while ignoring his coming in mystery in the present moment, I can lose peace and be tempted through intellectual pride to figure things out on my own. Moreover, an unhealthy fixation on the second coming of Christ to the neglect of his coming to me in the mystery of the present moment can lead me to be blind and vulnerable to false prophets (cf. Matt 7:15). Obsession about knowing precise details of his Second Coming, to the neglect of being faithful to the grace of the moment, can lead both to intellectual pride and an unbridled zeal that can result in mistakes and errors. When left unchecked, these dispositions towards sin can cause me to replace the gospel of Jesus with the anti-gospel of sinful self-idolatry or trendy messages that undermine what Our Lord has said in public revelation and through the teachings of the Magisterium of his Church.4 Such dispositions can lead good people to buy into or promote a heretical understanding of mystical events or even false mystics themselves and thus distort or destroy faith.
Excellent, 1:09. Fr. MacDonald nails it. There is a wealth of *legitimate* prophecy to be mined in the writings of the Doctors and Fathers of the Church and pronouncements of Councils and popes.
"Listening to the prophets of our day."
https://tinyurl.com/y6fox7oc
Seems like there are many wolves wolfing to confused sheeps. No harm will happen to you if you use the Sacrament of Reconciliation to get a good confession before December 21. Know that the "star of Bethlehem" will be seen in that exact date for nearly 800 years.
Speak to a trusted priest to get a confession cause that's like about 10 minutes of your time only and that is only you and the priest. I went to grocery and celebrations with more people than confession. I am pretty sure you will be safe if the virus concerns you.
Just be ready just in case the Warning will happen this year. I don't want to be one of you when who refuse to listen like the time of Noah and the Flood as well as Sodom and Gomorrah.
Vault, what makes you think that the planetary conjunction, which is just an optical illusion, is the significant event as opposed to the actual star collision / supernova which will be visible sometime between a year and three years for now and may put on a celestial show?
Our country is in a period in which millions of people are willing to accept fantastical conspiracy theories and predictions of all kinds. The world of religion is no exception.
I don't know why conspiracies and fantasy prophecies are so easily entertained, but I think fear may be a prime motivator. When you read Mt:24 does it scare you or give you comfort? It absolutely should be the latter. So what are you so afraid of, folks?
December 21 is the end of Fall and the start of Winter. What other predictions did Fr Michel make concerning Fall 2020 besides the Great events in October?
The Warning date has been postponed, for a short while:
https://maryrefugeofholylove.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/special-commentary-important-news-about-the-warning-illumination-of-conscience-and-need-for-prayers-for-donald-trump-by-a-soul-maryrefugeofsouls-pdf.pdf
Oh my, 4:15...
***Shaking my head, sadly***
And once again the purveyors of falsity decide to use "The Warning" toward political ends. There's a good, natural explanation for what's happening to Trumpers. They are totally addicted to his false raves. They can't get enough of it, the same way drunks or drug addicts are trapped in their sad addiction. The signs of the times are aiming toward a bad resolution to our divisions. It may indeed be painful for Trump addicts to "hit bottom"—the only way addicts finally wake up.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/12/trump-grievance-addiction-444570
To Vault,
The “Holy Love “ messages you posted a link to have been DISAPPROVED by the Catholic Church, See Bishop’s statement here:
https://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/files/assets/holylovestatements2019.pdf
If you only read, it isn't "Holy Love" ministries, it is Holy Family Refuge.
I can read and it clearly says maryrefugeofholylove holy love
Adding to what Anonymous above said, if you go to that PDF there are embedded hyperlinks one of which takes you to the condemned Maria Divine Mercy nonsense.
It's bad enough that Vault and others co-opt religious themes to spread their message but to do it for a political process is sheer idolatry.
“My dear people of God, we are now passing a test. The great events of purification will begin this fall.”
Tomorrow December 21 is the end of the Fall and the start of Winter. Does anyone know if the “great events of purification” have happened yet?
"The Warning date has been postponed, for a short while"
this says it all.
We know from other apparitions that the dates of the events/secrets are fixed and cannot be changed. Or may be some of the events are cancelled or lessened. But the dates cannot be changed after Garabandal. Paul VI was told of the dates. Whoever plays with God's words that somehow God gives "extra time" and communicates that "change in plans" to that deluded seer, be aware he does not speak from God even if he means well. Nothing personal, just don't buy into those "apparitions". And here the french father fully fits. He'd better repent for all the trouble he made to the faithful. It is a simple math: you can't count 6 weeks of shivering before the rising antichrist and to break your cell phones and computers, if for example the weeks are just 2 before asteroid impact and you need urgently to get shelter instead (and using your cell phones for that purpose), or in the other case if you have 2 years or more when you are still ALIVE. He is just wrong, yes I mean fr Michel. Someone wants to make us blind before we are sacrificed en masse. That someone is Not the Good God.
OK, if the prophecies of Fr. Michel did not come true, who are the good folks at the Countdown to the Kingdom telling us we should now follow to get ourselves all worked up into a panic?
And what do I do with the 3 months of beans, water and toilet paper I stocked piled thanks to the advice of Dan O’Connor?
It's a shame there are no comments allowed on the Countdown site. Daniel O'Connor has his own website, however. You can always email him and ask him what to do... It would be interesting to get his answer, if any.
In the Morning Prayer in the Liturgy of the Hours today (Christmas Day) we read from Hebrews:
In times past, God spoke in fragmentary and varied ways to our fathers through the prophets; in this, the final age, he has spoken to us through his Son, whom he has made heir of all things and through whom he first created the universe.
Consider that before the birth of Jesus that God spoke to mankind through prophets in fragmented ways, but that ended with the birth of Jesus. But the peddlers of doom and sellers of books at the CTTK want us to believe that God is again speaking to mankind in fragmented ways through the prophetic consensus and ever changing dates. Who needs their nonsense when we have the Bible, the Fathers of the Church, and the Magisterium that God has left us.
Merry Christmas all.
Well said, 8:31.
If we listen and understand Sacred Scripture and the wealth of "capital T" Tradition, we have all the prophecy we need. Anything else is suspect, not necessarily erroneous, but it always must be in accord with existing revelation.
The folks at Countdown to the Kingdom said that the Pope’s statement about civil unions fulfilled Fr. Rodrigue’s prophecy for Great Things to happen during the month of October.
Does anybody here really believe that?
The civil union statement wasn't even something made recently. I don't know by what kind of stretch of imagination it can be hammered in to make it seem like its a fulfillment for Fr Rodrigue's claim.
It was dug up from the interview archives made to a Mexican station in May 2019 and just gained prominence due to its inclusion in the Francesco documentary.
To anonymous above, but the public exposure of the civil unions really didn’t happen until the months of October. So in that sense the prophecy may have been fulfilled. Don’t forget the “prophetic consensus” either.
I have no idea why the Pope's statement about civil unions is any kind of "Great Thing." Civil unions are about civil legal rights between two persons; morally it's a non-issue. It's not about sex, it's not about sacramental marriage. So if that's the fulfillment of some dreadful prophecy....well, there's just nothing there that should cause concern.
To Anonymous @ DECEMBER 30, 2020 AT 11:12 AM
Those statements are a continuation of previous "off the cuff" remarks and eyebrow raising actions (e.g. "who am I to judge", rolling stones mag cover, granting audience to a gay couple with a huge photo op, etc)
Also, from:
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/vatican-breaks-silence-explains-pope-francis-civil-union-comments-n1245803
Quote: In it, the Vatican confirmed that Francis was referring to his position in 2010 when he was archbishop of Buenos Aires and strongly opposed moves to allow same-sex marriage. Instead, he favored extending legal protections to gay couples under what is understood in Argentina as a civil union law.
So, it is something that was out in the open for more than a DECADE.
Will a purification for humanity begin in Fall 2020? No.
To anonymous above, the purification did in fact begin in the fall of 2020. You just lack the spiritual eyes to see it. Dan O’Connor and the folks at Countdown to the Kingdom told us so and they’re backed up by the prophetic consensus!
So 2021 promises to be another of getting ourselves all worked up over these phony prophecies. Nothing has changed, but I’m sure they’ll roll out a new cast of mystics, seers, and sages to keep us on edge and in a high state of alert.
Are they still promoting the Blessed Grapes at Countdown to the Kingdom? That alone should clue you in.
Blessed Grapes do get preserved for a long time, in January 6 when people gather in America we will see what will happen onwards.
Vault, if the so called "blessed grapes" just last a long time and that is what one is concerned with, why not get some freeze dried food buckets from a reputable manufacturer (Mountain House, etc) that are guaranteed to last for 30+ years and have been proven to do so. Why should one rely / put trust into very questionable practices with the grapes.
Once again Vault proves the political nature of these false predictions. There is a sustained attempt by Trumpers to use any means necessary, including convincing the piously religious, to support their cause.
As St. John says in his epistle, the antichrist is here.
Seems like Trump was playing the pious Catholics for fools. I agree that his lawlessness, incessant lies, sexual immorality, greed, envy, narcissism make him a prime candidate for anti-christ,and expert at fooling the elect. Sad. Mike Pence is not much better...masonic handshake caught on camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTDG7HNsWOU
How can so many people get it so wrong for so long? Granted, there have been sinful, purposeful “fakes” out there, but there have also been some seemingly pious, well-meaning messengers/prophetic voices out there over the last half-century. I myself saw miraculous events take place at a “fake” apparition site. How can this be? The devil? None of the reported “events” of the “seer” at the site I visited ever came true. Yet it would seem I, as a follower of the messenger, got validation of the site by witnessing miraculous happenings. Many of the more we’ll-known seers are dying off, or getting pretty old (Garabandal, Medjugorie, etc). One could almost make the case that the resulting collateral damage to the faithful in following, and trusting, and seeing nothing come from this plethora of apparition sites these last decades, is more proof if the devil was in them than proof of the Devine. Very disheartening, my brothers.
God bless, and keep the faith.
8:51, can you describe one or two of the most miraculous events you witnessed?
Recall the words of St. Paul: 2Cor11 12-15
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And what I do I will continue to do, in order to end this pretext of those who seek a pretext for being regarded as we are in the mission of which they boast.
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* For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, who masquerade as apostles of Christ.
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And no wonder, for even Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
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So it is not strange that his ministers also masquerade as ministers of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
To anonymous above,
Let me preface my comments on the miraculous events I witnessed (and experienced) by first saying that I accompanied my wife, sister-in-law, and mother-in-law to a “site” which was big in the 90’s. Furthermore I went there as a fifth wheel, a tourist, you might say; I was not interested in saying the Rosary with the multitude (prior to the noon-time apparition), nor was I particularly religious in those years. In some sense, I was the perfect “innocent bystander” you might say. Zero expectations, and not much interest in “the event,” which was a monthly apparition of the Virgin Mary at noon, as I mentioned.
The place was packed. Cars, busses, people everywhere.
What happened is this:
It was cold, somewhat windy, and very overcast. I had on a thick coat. At exactly noon, the clouds opened, the sun blasted through, and the temperature went from about 40 degrees to maybe 70 degrees. It remained the way for several moments. Again, right at noon, when the Virgin was supposed to have arrived. Despite my apathy towards the event itself, I certainly noted this. It was odd the way the clouds seemed to peel back from exactly where the sun was behind them.
A bit later, I witnessed a young girl, a teenager, with her father and mother (I believe) and suddenly she cried out, “look, look.. you’re gold. And you’re gold. And you, too.” I watched her face, and her stunned amazement and joy as she touched her father and mother’s face with her hands, declaring they were “gold.” And declaring those around her “gold.” It was something to behold. I simply stood there and stared at her, wondering what she was witnessing.
There were a few other strange things I have not noted, but I’ll end with this:
As I was walking back to the car with my wife and in-laws, amongst the throngs of people dong the same, I stopped on a wooden bridge, and I said to God, “ Lord, it would have been nice if I could have had that experience that she (the “gold” girl) had to take back to Tony.” Tony was (still is) my atheist friend.
Instantly, it was then given to me. I literally watched the color gold wash across everything and everyone. It was beautiful. All the people around me were gold, and had a spinning gold disc centered on their person. The sun was pulsating in gold. The people were gold. The cars, the ground, everything.
Stunned, I said to my wife and in-laws, “ Are you seeing this? Are you seeing this?”
Every person’s face had a beautiful gold disc slightly spinning, every article if clothing, every tree, every blade of grass, was a beautiful gold. It was astonishing. I can still see it and remember it vividly. It truly was incredible, even as I look back on it all these decades later.
So, it was revealed to me what the girl had witnessed, at the instant I asked; and it was revealed to me for my atheist friend, just as I had asked.
I’ll end there, but will add that the “seer” of this place made a multitude of prophecies that were to come true prior to 2000. None of them did. And yet, as I suggested above, I seemed to get a personal validation of the authenticity of this apparition site. But none of the alleged prophecies ever came true that I know of. Furthermore, the site became a contentious legal battle (over ownership of the land, I believe) that left all those who had an good will towards it, in doubt in the end.
And this story plays out over and over and over again at these various apparition sites.
Many prophecies are made, but they never pan out, it seems. Which lead me to deduce (above) that perhaps the devil is behind most of these sites, despite occasional personal or group validations of some type.
God bless all, and be wary.
Certain prophets may be false but the prophetic consensus is true. Just ask the gang at Countdown to the Kingdom.
Glenn,,
Isn't it time for an update on Fr. Michel? His prophecies have gone the way of Charlie Johnston's and should be labelled as such, no?
Meanwhile there's a lady in Italy who sees visions of Our Lady and claims to have predicted the COVID-19 pandemic. My first thought was why are only hearing of this prediction after the fact?
Thanks for your work, Glenn.
Dan OConnor at Countdown to the Kingdom has assured us that the prophecies of Fr. Michel were fulfilled when the Pope issued the statement on civil unions in October. That was the Great Event that was predicted and fulfilled according to Mr. OConnor. So keep stocking up on beans, rice, water and toilet paper.
There have been so many Great Events lately it is hard to keep track. Wasn't there some alignment of planets that was seen as a Great Event at Christmas? How about the announcement of the Year of St. Joseph, wasn't that a Great Event also?
I wouldn't trust Daniel O'Connor, he is still flogging Fr. Rodrigue's prophecies (the last given in December 2020). He also advised people to stock up on WHITE rice, which shows he doesn't know much about nutrition.
Great Warning will happen to stop the worst. Will there be a nuclear exchange beforehand? (see Iran’s latest statements, Russia’s, China’s standoff with Taiwan).
Or…will there be Extraterrestrial disclosure? We need to realize those realities do exist, and are mentioned in the Bible (Ezekiel 1 etc). Not all planets above are inhabited by good or neutral aliens, that most likely will be shown first. Some are evil. Very evil. And will come to prey on the evil, arrogant and self-indulged people, no matter if they pretend to be “conservative catholics”. And when I mean prey, I mean what was shown in the last Star Wars as sucking out vital energy of one person to another (shown as positive voluntary life giving), or as a nightmare death by the Wraith in Stargate Atlantis serial. Maybe this is reserved for the end, the much worse than tsunami Malachi Martin said Fatima contained, the much worse than fire upon fire that Garabandal seers said about the Chastisement. I do not want to be in the position of those unrepentant egoistic "catholics" who now play as if they hold "God's finger" in their private and public lives.
Maybe no nuclear war and no ET disclosure will happen between now and Easter. I list it as two extreme possibilities. But if something big doesn't happen, and hope that will be the Great Warning, if not the people will start suiciding en masse including spiritual suicides and loss of any desire for life, even if they are devote catholics. And not because Trump lost. The people, in most cases good people, are put in a dead end corner including but not only by the political reality inside and outside USA. And some of them, the worse unrepentant part of the Church, turn their pursues for sacrifices at innocent people, at relatives, priests who are not in their taste, as if they are guilty for Trump loss, for their wrong perspective of the world that just doesn't happen, or for purely personal and family problems. That is not negligible part of the populations in and out USA (mostly I mean Europe). It can lead to unimaginable social upheaval if a major war is averted.
Something must happen and happen fast. The best will be the Great Warning to come this Easter season, if God wills it so. But we must be ready for other scenarios as well, some of which I listed above.
I cannot overstate the above info about evil aliens sucking out human vital energy. You Must watch Stargate Atalntis at least season 1 (and Stargate SG1 serial that is a different story but gives the basics from the beginning). Numerous insiders working in labs have said those films represent a real Disclosure in a form to be comprehensible by the population.
I am sorry to see my devote relatives completely ignorant thinking God will save them in some sort of magic while they themselves do little or even nothing to accept that gift of God, that is "the redemption of our body" after we received the redemption of our souls on the Cross of Jesus. They think they know everything, all theology, everything about life... while they know little close to nothing about the things above, and those things they know are heavily screwed up by their own view of the world, of who is politically right and wrong, and so on. On top of that, they use authoritarian style to reject any other view that a benevolent relative or friend may give, even priest.
They are practically doomed. Ultimately to become prey of evil aliens because they will refuse voluntarily the rescue offered, as they refuse it now when they are told. They will be happy if they die in tsunami. Maybe they won't and they will be fed upon by evil aliens real demons. Because they have rejected God's messengers, and they will equally reject God's angels, angelic extraterrestrials coming in the Ezekiel's chariots/ships. Here they have been told! I may love them more than they "love" me and want to "save my immortal soul" while condemning me to the painful death by demons without even knowing it themselves. But I will not stay to be sucked out by Wraith until I die painful death that includes fast ageing in hours in indescribable agony as graphically shown in the movie. I will choose the salvation in Jesus Christ, the redemption of the body. I write that here because they are resistant to any advice and obviously will be the targets of the Wraith in the 3 days of darkness or even before that. No candle will save you if you refuse God's plan for rescue!
The previous poster thinks aliens are coming to get us. A poster a while back told us he was John the Baptist reincarnated. Dan O'Connor tells us to store Blessed Grapes. Is this what the Catholic religion has turned into??
Exactly what would the alien dementors be sucking out from us? Is this some kind of reiki garbage? This is not Catholic.
Getting folks to worry about the fantasies 7:05 and 7:52 above is primarily political. If you can give any kind of credence to these "predictions" you are a mere step away from being sucked in to the devilish worlds of Q-anon and all the other far-right fantasies and lies.
I would think that few people would let themselves be fooled by these devils, but how else to explain the huge numbers of people that are already in this never-land of lies? 1/6 was not an one-off. We need to pray that the devils that influence/possess these liars be exorcised permanently.
St. Michael the Archangel, pray for us.
Malachi Martin about the Vatican Observatory
"Because the attitude, the mentality, amongst those who, at the higher level, the highest levels, of Vatican administration and Vatican geopolitics know that, now, KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN SPACE and WHAT'S APPROACHING US could be of great import in the next 5 years, 10 years"
https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/294422894371195915/
Malachi Martin was a colorful character to say the least. But one can't say that he hewed to the Church's ways all that well. His writings were steeped in fantasy conspiracy theories. His connection to the Church was tenuous during a large part of his life. He opposed much of Vatican II. Art Bell's "Coast to Coast" radio program plays interviews with Martin every Halloween....woooo.
See for yourself; this former Jesuit didn't always have both feet on the ground.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachi_Martin
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/the-strange-case-of-father-malachi-martin-the-kerry-priest-who-stars-in-netflixs-new-documentary-35363428.html
Malachi Martin is a phenomenon in the Church's revelation of secrets. He was a Catholic in good standing although later laicized at his request. I bet his superiors let him go on purpose so he could spread the knowledge they gave him beforehand - the text of the Third Secret of Fatima presented to him by the notorious cardinal Bea himself. Things do not "just happen" in the Vatican, not about the Third Secret of Fatima! Are you guys SO STUPID to reject EVEN MALACHI MARTIN because he doesn't fit in your narrow minded views?
I encourage all to re-listen Martin's lengthy interviews on Coast to Coast AM 1996, 1997, 1998 free on youtube. He says more about Fatima than the entire site of the holy Fr Gruner has ever said.
In one of these interviews, (I think it was the same interview above of what is coming from Space although I am not sure), Malachi Martin said that the extraterrestrials were in contact with scientists for the last 5 hundred years and influenced the development of science. Malachi hides behind the phrase "we don't know" when asked specifics. But he said it, in plain sight. He does not demonize them either.
We should distinguish between aliens. Some distinctive group of them certainly are demons (if not the devils themselves who are spiritual beings). But many other groups are not, while others are closer to the angels (who are spiritual beings). I am surprised at the outright rejection of any thought about other planets by people who should actually care, when Our Lady in Garabandal said aliens do exist and need redemption of Jesus Christ as we do. In Medjugorje Our Lady said, it was not the time to ask that question but to pray (1981).
Now, 40 years later seems everything goes to the predetermined end. And those who are stupid enough to reject the already half revealed truth, jeopardize not only their physical survival but in fact after they are gone the Church will not have those fanatical groups and persons among her members in the Era of peace. They were told! Think about that, when easily deny the physical salvation of your children and grandchildren, you fools who pretend to be traditional catholics. You are Not traditionalists, if you will reject Malachi Martin, Garabandal, and Thomas Aquinas who did not rule out explicitly the existence of life on other stars in the Universe, who did not rule out God's creative freedom. And why to mention the recent holy popes if you have already demonized them?
Sorry for all good minded people for my words, I do not address THEM but I have to say those words for the sake of the children of those who pretend to be the True Catholics. No, they are Not! I certainly can say more but it is not needed. I will bet on Malachi Martin who has read the real Third Secret.
The calculation of dates is very simple. Malachi Maritn failed for 2017 20y prediction, that is to say we already got 3 extra years and that's it! The other way is to say Fatima lied. We know very well there was a date in the original Third Secret text.
Medjugorje seer Marija in the Fall of 2017 said she hoped the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart to happen in 2017! She HOPED? Didn't she know the EXACT DATES FO THE SECRETS? Wasn't the Triumph supposed to come only AFTER THE SECRETS?
Which secrets do we know that cannot change? Only the TENTH. The other secrets can be diminished, as the 7th were, or apparently cancelled altogether. The words of Marija, unless we suppose she doesn't see the real Virgin Mary, mean the other secrets 1-8 were cancelled, with only remaining the 10th that cannot be cancelled or lessened whatsoever, and let say the 9th that is worse than 1-8 together but we cannot be sure of the 9th it might be cancelled as well.
So we reach to the point to have ONE planetary event coming for sure, the 10th secret that cannot be cancelled or cannot be changed with its EXACT date written on the parchment received directly from Heaven (according to Medjugorje kids' early interviews).
Is it the same event as the falling sun in Fatima? Most likely yes. We may speculate what exactly it is but we know it is coming because Our Lady showed it to 70,000 people including atheists who witnessed in secular newspapers later.
Is it why all the worldwide lockdown? Because if a celestial body approaches (whatever the exact nature, I will not speak of that now), the leaders surely know and don't want the people to start killing each other on the streets for bread or luxury goods they never had, if they know their days are numbered and if they know not everyone is scheduled to be saved, for months before the actual cataclysm? Very likely! Many insiders online propose such scenario and the true reasons behind the secretiveness around Planet X etc. A number of leaders spoke of the urgency of the situation that cannot be left for yet another year, both for the Climate and Covid.
I suggest the cataclysmic event is either around June Medjugorje 40th anniversary, or at latest October. Not a precise date but a period of time. Or maybe there are 9th and 10th secrets left so we have a series of dramatic events between June and October.
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The US agencies are required by the bipartisan law voted in House and Senate and signed by president Trump (the same law with the stimulus) to give to Congress all their collected documents observations etc of UFO by the end of June
(6 months since the law is adopted). Maybe sooner. Make your own conclusions, and stop calling the facts coming from Congress supported also by Mr Trump whom most of you support, to be fake news, politics and conspiracy! Did you lose your mind or what? Trump spoke that although he personally doesn't particularly believe in UFO, he believes what the US brave pilots saw in the skies! Just google it before calling names someone who spends time and effort to make it possible for you to get the truth and be saved! Or...the Church after the cataclysm will survive WITHOUT YOU AND YOUR FANATICISM. As simple as THAT!
Dr Salvatore Pais patented UFO like triangular craft on behalf of US Navy.
But all of that is nonsense yes, conspiracy, anti-Catholic and of course anti-Trump. And let shoot at the messenger who takes time to tell us that, let say he makes political and anti-Catholic propaganda . Let burry our heads in the sand...until we are eaten by the lurking lion. Well, you have been told, several times in this excellent blog. Even God cannot save you against your own free will. People who choose to disobey, disobey the pope and Vatican II in first place. Sins against the Holy Spirit.
Craft Using an Inertial Mass Reduction Device
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/en?inventor=salvatore+pais&oq=salvatore+pais
Abstract
A craft using an inertial mass reduction device comprises of an inner resonant cavity wall, an outer resonant cavity, and microwave emitters. The electrically charged outer resonant cavity wall and the electrically insulated inner resonant cavity wall form a resonant cavity. The microwave emitters create high frequency electromagnetic waves throughout the resonant cavity causing the resonant cavity to vibrate in an accelerated mode and create a local polarized vacuum outside the outer resonant cavity all.
'STUNNING ADMISSION' Pentagon admits it has been testing wreckage from UFO crashes & findings may ‘change our lives forever,’ expert says https://www.the-sun.com/news/2321251/pentagon-admits-testing-wreckage-ufo-crashes/
DIA released 154 pages of test results that includes reports on a mysterious "memory" metal called Nitinol, which remembers its original shape when folded."
The DIA letter is dated January 8, 2021, check the link above for the scanned letter.
Let make it clear: all if that is not conspiracy anymore, not fake news, not political or anti-Catholic delusion, not interpretation or hearsay. Those are FACTS presented by competent authorities who have worked with them for decades. Like it or not.
Only After we get All available Facts, we can draw Conclusions. The sooner we get them the better. Seems we will get them in the next three to four months. Whoever hides from the facts is wrong and at best deluded.
A man with a wide open mind
Said UFOs are easy to find:
You just have to toke
The right kind of smoke
For an encounter of the alien kind!
I hope no one puts any credibility in a story that comes out of the tabloid press. The story is a tease....no real substance behind it.
Best comment about aliens: "So they pass through the vast distances of space and time with technology beyond our imagination....and then they crash."
Yeah....right.
Do you imply therefore that the published letter from the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon is a forgery, with the scanned signature of Steven Tuminski, Chief, records and Information Services, being forged?
direct link to the scanned letter:
https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/02/NINTCHDBPICT000635720307.jpg
I wouldn't buy into such unfounded suggestion, only because it is posted in the Sun. Shooting at the messenger is the worst of all reactions.
Whether the "alien craft crashed" or whether the craft were from, let say, a secret German program, it is NOT BEING DISCUSSED IN THE LETTER. It is you who say "they pass through the vast distances of space and time..." I do not read that in the letter. Instead, I read:
"A search of DIA systems of records located five documents (154 pages) responsive to your request.
5 enclosures:
1. Metallic glasses - Status and prospects for Aerospace applications (30 pgs)
2. Biomaterials (32 pgs)
3. Materials for Advanced Aerospace Platforms (27 pgs)
4. Metallic Spintronics (27 pgs)
5. Metamaterials for Aerospace Applications (38 pgs)
BEWARE OF THE GREYS
Grey-skinned humanoids, usually 3–4 feet tall, hairless, with large heads, black almond-shaped eyes, nostrils without a nose, slits for mouths, no ears and 3-4 fingers including thumb. Greys have been the predominant extraterrestrial beings of alleged alien contact since the 1960s
6:56pm,
No, not a forgery; just a letter written in Government-ese that doesn't say anything at all about aliens. You're drawing conclusions out of a very bland document about government research that basically says nothing about your theories. Sorry, it's just conspiracy theories. There's no messenger to shoot.
1. "I hope no one puts any credibility in a story that comes out of the tabloid press. The story is a tease....no real substance behind it."
2. "No, not a forgery; just a letter written in Government-ese that doesn't say anything at all about aliens. You're drawing conclusions out of a very bland document about government research"
These two statements do not match, do they? Either it is a true story or not, and if the document is true and not forged, then let see what is in it: exotic materials being researched by the Pentagon related labs, and now being reported as answer to a request for reporting UFO. No, they do not say the word "aliens", they concentrate on the facts. I'd wish to see those 154 pages.
And I advice all devote Catholics who read here to concentrate on the facts first and foremost, before drawing any conclusions or promote their own limited understanding what "it must be" because "it cannot be what someone else suggests". Even if that someone else is the Pentagon controlled 1 month ago by their beloved President Trump, who signed in December the bill requiring the release of all UFO related info to the Congress in 6 months...
"Grey, Reptilians, or Nordic Human ET", "Germans underground/under ice" or "Secret space program on Moon/Mars", we can discuss that only after we have hard proof facts. What we can't do is to deny blindly and presumptuous without giving credence to any facts. It is stupid to deny reality as they denied it in Galileo time.
There is enough evidence for the Secret space program existence (we don't know how far they go), as a bottom line. Otherwise, you wouldn't have the richest man on the planet building rocket to Mars with his pocket money. Just face the reality if you want to be relevant and defend the Catholic faith in any circumstance.
1:07 PM, You certainly have a great deal of faith, I have to give you that much. Keep the faith, my friend. God loves you as much as He does any of us.
The extraterrestrial visitors to Earth live in Antarctica under the ice caps. Their heat is what is melting the polar ice caps. Just google this and you will see that it is true. They also have colonies in the western Pacific Ocean in the southern end of the Mariana Trench, but they only live there part of the year. Their main base is in Antarctica.
About 10 years ago I woke up at night and saw an orb floating in the air.
Might it have been a extraterrestrial?
a must have list, buy it today from Amazon!
1. Radio transmitter like Baofeng or other
2. Shortwave radio receiver + shortwave antenna to increase its range
3. Portable power charger
1. Baofeng (or other) make you independent to communicate without internet in case of emergency (in normal conditions you need to be licensed radio amateur in order to transmit but you can listen without license). It can easily catch NOAA weather stations. (you will need a short course on youtube to set up your radio).
2. Still, the VHF and UHF waves above, as well as your FM and Weather radio, depend on local repeaters and towers (as well as your phone, although they differ between). So you must add the shortwave SW radio in case those repeaters fail in your region for any reason. Don't argue what that reason could be or that it cannot happen...Just buy one more SW radio for 20$ even if you will never listen it.
All of that will cost you less than 100$ if you choose the cheapest options.
Why the urgent need? Because internet may stop, or the power grid may collapse. In either way you will be cut off, and for a purpose. Those who will be cut off will not know where to go to be rescued.
Add to that the EMP protection that may be a Faraday bag, Mylar aluminum bags (need several layers of them for one item), or simple Aluminum foil to wrap well your radios.
Don't say you know all about, you have blessed candles and that God will save your home! Let it be so, but you do your part. You will never be sorry for that. Don't say it will take another 5 years because the Great Warning didn't happen yet...it may be only 5 days or weeks. You may be in a blackout long before the Great Warning.
I suffer as I see close people to me who literally "play god" with all the graces they've received, and do very little if any to really prepare, while thinking how good they are, how many candles and food they have...while in fact they know very little of the real stuff, will be caught off guard and the best they could expect is to die in peace in the hands of the Lord but certainly not to prolong the lives of their children into the era of peace... Well, internet is for all and in fact they and you have been told.
For all those who think that the real Third Secret of Fatima is only about the dangers for the faith, here is what Lucia said
https://www.spiritdaily.org/Pathway4.htm
Then came the additional enlightenment, about which we now learn Lucia said as another vision:
"The tip of the spear as a flame unlatches and touches the axis of the earth. It shudders. Mountains, cities, towns, and villages with their inhabitants are buried. The sea, the rivers, and the clouds emerge from their limits, overflowing and bringing with them in a whirlwind houses and people in numbers that are not possible to count. It is the purification of the world as it plunges into sin. Hatred and ambition cause the destructive war!"
How could the above be danger for the faith, issues with the pope, etc, etc... if Lucia clearly speaks of a planetary cataclysm not recorded in the history since the Great Flood or even before?
And here is what St John Paul II said in Fulda:
“Given the seriousness of the contents, my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves.
“On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this: if there is a message in which it is written that the oceans will flood whole areas of the earth, and that from one moment to the next millions of people will perish, truly the publication of such a message is no longer something to be so much desired.”
In other words, we will not be told until the last moment. So much of the forewarnings! 3 days, maximum 10 days, and that's it!
How to make a Tin Foil Hat:
1. Measure your head.
2. Unroll tinfoil.
3. Mold the hat to your head.
4. At each temple, poke a quarter-inch hold on either side of the foil.
5. Create a chin strap.
6. Thread the chin strap through the holes and attach with clear tape.
7. Don your hat.
**CHUCKLE**
many of the ultra conservatives will die in the minor Chastisement, regardless whether it comes this year or after 10 years, because they simply do not want to be saved physically. They erect barriers before ANY attempt and any person that God puts on their earthly way, each next time higher walls. they will equally reject the miracles that will happen shortly. They will run from the hill of the great miracle, said one seer.
Let it be so! Those people have been given free will and reason (at least they say they are not insane).
The Church after the Chastisement will not have them among her flock on earth.
Whether they will be saved for the eternal life, after different length purgatory, it is not I to judge. But they judge anyway. They judge Everyone and Everything that goes out of their prejudiced narrow minded views. And because most people here visit such communities, both online and in real life, then you know what I am talking about, you know well those fanatics who would gladly erect new stakes of fires if they could do so.
Matthew 7:2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you."
Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. "
This is my last post in this blog until the Chastisement
Question for the previous commenter. Are you the same guy who was posting here a few months ago claiming to be St. John the Baptist reincarnated?
Let's touch base after the Chastisement. Maybe we can do lunch.
When I was 14, I saw a UFO. It flew directly over my head, so I got a good look at it, as it flew by. It was saucer shaped and had dark blue designs on it. What startled me most, was that it didn't make a sound. That was the last time I talked back to my Mom in the kitchen.
I have never claimed to be St John the Baptist or any other.
And if I answer one last time, it is NOT because of your absurd riducules, but because of the words of John Paul II in Fulda:
https://fatima.org/about/the-third-secret/pope-john-paul-ii-in-fulda-germany-1980/
"The October 1981 issue of the German magazine Stimme des Glaubens reported on a discussion that Pope John Paul II had with a select group of German Catholics, in November of 1980. The following is a verbatim report of the discussion:
"The Holy Father was asked, “What about the Third Secret of Fatima? Should it not have already been published by 1960?”
Pope John Paul II replied: “Given the seriousness of the contents, my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves.
“On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this: if there is a message in which it is written that the oceans will flood whole areas of the earth, and that from one moment to the next millions of people will perish, truly the publication of such a message is no longer something to be so much desired.”
The Pope continued: “Many wish to know simply from curiosity and a taste for the sensational, but they forget that knowledge also implies responsibility. They only seek the satisfaction of their curiosity, and that is dangerous if at the same time they are not disposed to do something, and if they are convinced that it is impossible to do anything against evil.”
At this point the Pope grasped a Rosary and said: “Here is the remedy against this evil. Pray, pray, and ask for nothing more. Leave everything else to the Mother of God.”
The Holy Father was then asked: “What is going to happen to the Church?”
He answered: “We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long, such as will demand of us a disposition to give up even life, and a total dedication to Christ and for Christ… With your and my prayer it is possible to mitigate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because only thus can the Church be effectively renewed. How many times has the renewal of the Church sprung from blood! This time, too, it will not be otherwise. We must be strong and prepared, and trust in Christ and His Mother, and be very, very assiduous in praying the Rosary.”
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So much of the "consecration of Russia requirement". John Paul II declares in 1980 two years before the first consecration in 1982 and 4 years before the 1984 consecration that "it is no longer possible to avert it,"... Indeed it would be strange the consequent popes together with the bishops to hold such power as to avert the world catastrophe with a simple prayer of consecration and to usher the Era of Peace and Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and not to use it for one century waiting the chastisement instead. They are not insane, none of these popes! They know what we do not know, sure beyond Fatima too. I leave the comments to you because you always know more...For me it is a closed case. We have been betrayed. All of us, both traditionalists, liberal, moderate, and even the non catholics. After that discovery, I have nothing more to add.
10:15,
Sorry but I don't buy the "harem, scarem'" version of Christianity that you preach. I read the gospels and have listened to the popes in my lifetime, from Pius XII right through to Pope Francis. The message in the gospels is one of hope, love and yes, sacrifice—even to the point of death when necessary. But that message does not include the kind of Gnostic mysteries you espouse.
Last night I saw a UFO descending from the sky.
It landed in my garden, but I’d no idea why.
The spaceship doors were opened wide, and to my great surprise
A stream of aliens came out before my very eyes.
There were:
Big ones, small ones, every shape and size
Neat ones, sweet ones, ones with bulging eyes.
Wary ones, scary ones; the strangest things you’ve seen,
And yet (despite the myths I’ve heard)
NONE OF THEM WERE GREEN!
They wandered from their spaceship and came to speak to me
They thought I was earth’s leader (as far as I could see).
They introduced themselves to me, each in their own way
Using different voices for what they had to say.
There were:
Squeaky ones, creaky ones, some that sounded loud.
Sly ones, shy ones, blending with the crowd.
Smiley ones, wily ones, some that looked quite mean,
But still (despite the myths I’ve heard)
NONE OF THEM WERE GREEN!
I spent the evening with them and we partied through the night
Until the early morning, when they left before first light.
I told my friends about them, and everything I’d seen;
They all were truly jealous and, yes,
ALL OF THEM WERE GREEN!
Pope Francis: World could face a new ‘great flood’
CNA Staff, Mar 2, 2021 / 01:00 pm MT (CNA).- Pope Francis said in a new book released on Tuesday that the world could face a catastrophe like the Great Flood if human beings fail to address climate change.
The pope made the remark in a new book-length interview with the Italian priest Fr. Marco Pozza published on March 2.
In “Of Vices and Virtues” (“Dei vizi e delle virtù”), published in Italian by Rizzoli, the two men discussed the account of the Great Flood in the Book of Genesis.
According to an excerpt from the book in the newspaper Corriere delle Sera, the pope said: “A great flood, perhaps due to a rise in temperature and the melting of glaciers: that is what will happen if we continue on the same path.”
The pope’s comments about the flood came during a discussion of God’s wrath, which he said was directed against evil emanating from satan.
“The wrath of God seeks to bring justice and to ‘cleanse.’ The Flood is the result of God’s wrath, according to the Bible,” he said.
He noted that experts regarded the flood as a mythical story. He stressed that he did not wish to be misquoted as saying that the Bible is a myth, but suggested that myth was a form of knowledge.
“The flood is a historical account, archaeologists say, because they found evidence of a flood in their excavations,” he said.
After referring to a possible new great flood, he said: “God unleashed his wrath, but he saw a righteous man, took him and saved him.”
“The story of Noah shows that the wrath of God is also a saving one.”
Pope Francis is no doubt correct. He is speaking about sea level rise. Given the numbers of people that live at sea level, sea level rise of just a few feet will indeed be a major catastrophe. The threat of climate change is upon us and it remains to be seen whether the world can do what it takes to avoid it.
And how much have sea levels risen for the past few millennia, prior to modern industrialization? How many ancient ruins are underwater just off the coast of e.g. India, Japan, etc?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_sea_level#/media/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
The Tin Foil Hat Society is a group which aims to protect its members from the nefarious organizations which currently operate across the globe, while providing a means to safely contact one another. Numbers are never revealed as to how many members are part of the TFHS, but the group is often described as "Large in number".
As its name suggests, all members of the Tin Foil Hat Society have tin foil hats which they wear at all times. Furthermore, members may have tinfoil ties, glasses, radars, etc.
The Tin Foil Hat Society adopts a military command structure loosely following the traditional United States Armed Forces chain of command, one of their ranks is First Lieutenant-Corporal which Schmitt Witherspoon currently holds the title of.
We don’t blame you for thinking someone is getting into your head. With all the radio waves, laser beams, Bluetooth signals and microwave particle beams zooming around, it’s clear that someone somewhere is reading everybody’s every thought. By now, you’ve discovered that an ordinary tin foil hat doesn’t protect you from all these attempts to control your mind. What you need is more protection – and that’s just what you’ll get from the WaveFree tin foil body suit.
With the WaveFree body suit, you’ll have complete coverage over your entire body. No beams, waves or signals – no matter what the frequency – will be able to penetrate the sturdy double-thick tin foil, keeping you safe and secure from mental interference on earth or in space – or anywhere else. Your thoughts will finally be your own – and you’ll be able to concentrate on things like building that underground survival shelter with the radar jamming equipment.
The WaveFree body suit comes on a handy roll, and the foil is easy to form around your body. Simply tape all seams, poke two holes for breathing, and you’ll have all the protection you need. Get yours today, before “they” order you not to.
"US has 'secret evidence of UFOs breaking sound barrier without a sonic boom and performing moves humans don't have the technology for', says Trump's Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9387129/There-lot-sightings-public-Anticipation-mounts-ahead-UFO-report.html
In December a 180-day deadline was announced for a report into UFO sightings.
The Pentagon and intelligence agencies must release their report by June 1.
John Ratcliffe, former DNI, said there were more sightings than publicly known.
Ratcliffe said the observations were made by Navy and Air Force pilots.
They were recorded by 'multiple sensors' and had no obvious explanation.
The incidents included supersonic travel without a sonic boom.
Ratcliffe said it was in the public interest that the information be released"
The post above is a cut-and-paste from a blog aptly named Lunatic Outpost:
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-238383.html
Rubio wants answers on 'UFOs' reported over US military posts
'There’s stuff flying over military installations and no one knows what it is, and it isn’t ours,' Rubio said
By Caitlin McFall | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rubio-wants-answers-on-ufos-reported-over-us-military-posts
Ratcliffe: Pentagon report will prove 'a lot more' UFO sightings
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6242779113001#sp=show-clips
Thanks to Trump-era covid relief bill, a UFO report may soon be public — and it’ll be big, ex-official says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/03/23/ufo-report-covid-bill/
A former intelligence official says an upcoming government report will detail 'difficult to explain' UFO sightings
https://www.businessinsider.com/ufo-sightings-ratcliffe-new-report-intel-2021-3?r=US&IR=T
Hardly a lunatic blog...all over the news including conservative ones. If you guys read at all. Two Republicans speak so far.
A man with a wide open mind
Said UFOs are easy to find:
You just have to toke
The right kind of smoke
For an encounter of the alien kind!
An eminent skeptic maintained
That UFOs are simply explained
As swamp gas, the moon,
Or a weather balloon,
Or a hoax that’s obviously feigned.
A ufologist named Dr Bacon
For a ride in a saucer was taken.
But when he got back
Men came dressed in Black
And told him he must be mistaken.
Here's another:
Flying saucers are not just from space,
Though it's common to think that's their place.
I am sure that I'm right
Since, one hot steamy night,
My mom threw quite a few at Dad's face.
You've heard about little green men,
they visit us time and again,
I took one to our leader,
and asked: "Should we feed her?"
And the alien whispered "Amen!"
Russia-Ukraine situation deteriorates rapidly.
Even the pope spoke today.
Many will say, nothing will happen again, Putin will back off again. And why to assume so? Did the prophecies say so? Instead they say Russia will ...do whatever. It is useless to wrangle about the consecration. For me it is not done properly. But it is not I to say. There is a record of Lucia of old age who say it was done properly. We all know she lived all her life in a cloistered convent and before that recorded meeting with the cardinal she was instructed by a personal letter from the pope (I suggest it was not the only instruction). Lucia as a person can err.
What is important right now is not to presume ANYTHING but GET READY NOW for the WORST. And if better comes, thanks be to God!
The most common error the conservative Catholics do (those who obviously read here and whom I write for) is to assume that their strong faith and moral life are enough, and to start judging the others who in their view do not have equally worthy lifestyles. Instead of using this precious last time left to prepare with everything they need to SURVIVE, and to show more KINDNESS AND MERCY towards those others whom Jesus nevertheless bought up with His Precious Blood on the Cross. Remember Divine Mercy, it doesn't expire on the feast day! Jesus warned St Faustina that whoever does not show mercy will not receive mercy as well.
That is why I write that, again. To make a LAST MINUTE EFFORT for the survival of those conservative brethren who think they know EVERYTHING while in fact they don't. They are very far from knowing many things, and I wouldn't touch upon those issues again now. Time is literally running out.
Buy Ham radios! Install FEMA and NOAA apps! Get power banks! All of that will cost you less than 100 if you are in USA. Once you receive instructions on internet/phone/radio in a time of disaster (like nuclear explosion be it in Ukraine or elsewhere) follow them immediately! Do not argue how wrong the others are, how Fema wants to imprison you. In fact if you are dead anyway by radiation, what matters, according to that logic? Here you have been told.
The first nuke in Ukraine will set a chain reaction. The Ukrainian president already warned in a French magazine during his recent visit that both Donbass and Crimea will have the fate worse than that of Chernobil...WAIT! Is Ukraine a nuclear power? More important than that question is, what happens next after one or several nukes go off? How would Russia and China react to that? Instead of arguing, go to the shelters immediately if the government offers you one. They may not be saints they may be sinners but to reject that in such a moment means your death sentence.
Time to prepare is NOW! Do not underestimate those warning, brethren! Even if you think you know everything worth and are all holy and virtuous. Think of your kids and who remains on earth after your self chosen martyrdom. Those people whom you criticize now most, they will be saved. Here you have been told, not for the first time!
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away
I cooked your food
I cleaned your house
And this is how you paid me back
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy
To the happy home
They sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
To the loony bin with all you need prescription drugs
Like Thorazine, and lithium
Electric shock and insulin
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away
They're coming to take me away ha ha
They're coming to take me away
One of the prophecies of Fr. Rodrique is:
“Pope Francis will flee the Vatican before the Warning (and be killed) and there will be a false pope (false prophet). Pope Emeritus Benedict will try to call a council, but will be a martyr.”
Now that Pope Benedict has passed away what does it mean for these prophecies? And will Countdown to the Kingdom now apologize for getting everyone all worked up over these false prophecies? It will be interesting how they spin this.
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